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Old 24-01-2005, 05:56 PM
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Albright knot

Hi guys,

I need some advice on how properly tie the Albright. Do you make the loop with the thick line (the leader) and wrap around a thin line (fire line) or opposite?

What is the difference between "Improved Albright" and "Albright Special"?

Do you tie any doubles before you tie an Albright?

I found that the Albright tied to 4 lbs fireline is very weak (unless the fire line I've got is a "bad batch) and I have lost two trout lures (13 gramson Sunday just casting them. This was my first time I used 4 lbs fire line and am very dissapointed.

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Old 24-01-2005, 06:40 PM
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Sometimes, due to its small diameter, 4lb cuts through the leader material. I ve had the same trouble.

Try using the double uni knot with the fire kinked and doubled over. It works a treat.

What leader yuo using? I had a bad batch of berkley vanish and it broke no matter what knot i used.

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Old 24-01-2005, 07:01 PM
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im a big fan of the albright knot, but because of braids fine diametre, and slipery charectoristics, i tend to use a bimini double in the braid before tying the albright, it stops the braid from cuting the leader and stops slipage

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Old 24-01-2005, 07:07 PM
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Once again I'll bring Chris Lemess's dodgy albright diagram back into action (I think I've posted it more than Chris).

This is kinda how I do it also:
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Old 24-01-2005, 07:22 PM
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swoffa,
that version of an albright knot looks alright, just had a go at it at home and i like wot im seein!!
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Old 24-01-2005, 07:43 PM
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I do it slightly differently but can't be arsed drawing it... I wrap the Fireline in both directions, apart from that it's the same. The key is the way it's locked off in the pic. I rarely have to re-tie leaders when on the water now.



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Old 24-01-2005, 07:53 PM
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I wrap the Fireline in both directions
After alot of trial and error I use the above method and have not had a prob
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Old 24-01-2005, 08:14 PM
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Does the additional locking make much of a difference? I use a normal improved albright, which works OK with doubled fireline but tends to pop before the jig knot with just the single strand of fireline.
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Locking it off made a world of difference for me.
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Old 24-01-2005, 08:28 PM
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will have to give it a go them. Do you normally use a double with it?
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Old 24-01-2005, 08:29 PM
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I don't bother with a double for 4lb Fireline, I only use it in 8lb and up.
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Old 25-01-2005, 07:41 AM
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Thanks guys,

I have checked Geoff Wilson's knot library in the fishnet, and it claims that the Albright has only 50% of braking strain when joining mono and the fireline! Are there any knots that have a higher braking strain? Did anyone do any tests on Albright?

Could anyone please recommend another knot for 4 lbs fireline joining 6-8 lbs Vanish instead?

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Old 25-01-2005, 07:45 AM
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The albright is a gun knot!

If You tie this right you wont loose a leader in a hurry. I find it will pretty much always snap at the jig head...or bend the jig head open.

Even better still its such a small diametre knot so theres no resistance when it leaves the guides.

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Old 25-01-2005, 07:46 AM
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Like i said, try the double uni with the fire line doubled over so it doesnt cut through the leader.

If you can and are willing, do a test with your vanish. Tie a granny knot in it and pullit and see if it snaps pretty easy... maybe i got a dud spool but i wont fish it anymore
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Old 25-01-2005, 07:59 AM
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Yeah,
I just got two spools of Nitlon 8 and 10 lbs. Can't wait to try. Don't have a trust in Vanish any more!
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