Spooling 2004's cheap

[redfinfisho]

Anyone else hate the wasted braid left over from spooling 2004 reels?

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Because 2004 spools only hold 100m of PE 0.6 you get 50-30m left over depending how much you try and cram on by over spooling your reel, and if you over spool your asking for line issues. I've found you get wind knots until you lose abit of line and your back at the correct level.

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Heres a 150m spool of UNITIKA EGING SUPER PE II and as you can see about 30m of left over braid which is useless to me.

The problem is nearly every light braid comes in 150m spools. Recently I've found a nice cost effective solution to this problem. I have found a braid I like that is available in 210m Spools this means I can a fill a 2004 twice with a PE 0.6 and have zero wastage. A 210m spool only costs around $50 so to fill a 2004 with a top quality braid is only costing around $25/2004 spool.

150m spool of this line in Australia usually retails over $70

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Here's the 210m spools of the same line

I've bought this braid off PLAT
http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/d...per-pe-ii.html

Spooling 2004's with PE 0.8 isn't as bad as you can almost spool two 2004's with a 150m pack of PE 0.8, you just need to adjust your backing a little. But I'd still rather a 210m spool of PE 0.8 so I can have just a few wraps of mono backing and get as much braid as i can on my reel you may have a little wastage at the end but not much at all and you can spool your reels perfectly first time without having to take all the line off and adjust your backing.

This can also be used with 2506 reels using PE 0.8 and PE 1. I don't have a 2506 but I believe they will take about 100-120m of PE 0.8

[Sloth]

Cheers for taking the time to post this Nate. I run 2506 with .8 so its been immensely helpful

[bamm]

Originally Posted by redfinfisho

Anyone else hate the wasted braid left over from spooling 2004 reels?

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Because 2004 spools only hold 100m of PE 0.6 you get 50-30m left over depending how much you try and cram on by over spooling your reel, and if you over spool your asking for line issues. I've found you get wind knots until you lose abit of line and your back at the correct level.

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Heres a 150m spool of UNITIKA EGING SUPER PE II and as you can see about 30m of left over braid which is useless to me.

The problem is nearly every light braid comes in 150m spools. Recently I've found a nice cost effective solution to this problem. I have found a braid I like and that is available in 210m Spools this means I can a fill a 2004 twice with a PE 0.6 and have zero wastage. A 210m spool only costs around $50 so to fill a 2004 with a top quality braid is only costing around $25/2004 spool.

150m spool of this line in Australia usually retails over $70

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Here's the 210m spools of the same line

I've bought this braid off PLAT
http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/d...per-pe-ii.html

Spooling 2004's with PE 0.8 isn't as bad as you can almost spool two 2004's with a 150m pack of PE 0.8, you just need to adjust your backing a little. But I'd still rather a 210m spool of PE 0.8 so I can have just a few wraps of mono backing and get as much braid as i can on my reel you may have a little wastage at the end but not much at all and you can spool your reels perfectly first time without having to take all the line off and adjust your backing.

This can also be used with 2506 reels and in PE 0.8 and PE 1. I don't have a 2506 but I believe they will take about 100-120m of PE 0.8

Champion man thanks for taking the time to post this up
I have 2506 and get a spool of td sensor 8lb on it and castaway 0.6 full spool also fits if u wanted too know

[bamm]

U haven't had any trouble with this braid?

[Piscateur]

Great Stuff Nath

[Pheonix]

I solved the problem by buying PE.6 Braid in 300meter spools and by dividing it into three equal lengths. Result is just the correct amount of Braid to accommodate the spool (x 3 times).
Super PE, for example, comes in 300 meter spools.
Cheers,
Pheonix.

[matt jorg]

Well done mate! We need more of this on here great info to share!
Cheers matt

[redfinfisho]

Cheers fellas thanks for the comments.
I have heard of people getting a full 150m spool of PE 0.6 on a 2004. I personally have never been able to. Maybe people aren't using quite as much backing and jamming as much line as possible on or different manufactures PE dimensions differ slightly.

And yer I believe a 150m of PE 0.6 will fit on a 2506

Originally Posted by bamm

U haven't had any trouble with this braid?

Not really I like this line alot it's up there with the best I've used

Originally Posted by matt jorg

Well done mate! We need more of this on here great info to share!
Cheers matt

cheers Matt


Buying spools in 300m will definitely work too.

[Partizan Fk]

Mate thats great info mate.Some places over fill and you end up with wind knots. I hate waste like the next guy but is 100-120 m relly needed for light fishing its shallow water most guys fish in.I wonder on a 2004 if 70m or less would be enough.How much line can a flatty,Bream etc can take.

[HVBfishaholic]

150m of PE0.6 will fit on a 2506 with a few wraps of similar diameter backing.
I am with Partizan on the 2004 spooling - split a 150m spool and spool with 75m along with some quality backing.
Have been taken down to the backing with a 2004 once or twice when I have hooked king or blue salmon unintentionally and still landed the fish.
I make sure the knot that joins the braid to the mono is right at the bottom of the spool (braid lays over the top and does not catch).

[redfinfisho]

Originally Posted by Partizan Fk

Mate thats great info mate.Some places over fill and you end up with wind knots. I hate waste like the next guy but is 100-120 m relly needed for light fishing its shallow water most guys fish in.I wonder on a 2004 if 70m or less would be enough.How much line can a flatty,Bream etc can take.

Originally Posted by HVBfishaholic

150m of PE0.6 will fit on a 2506 with a few wraps of similar diameter backing.
I am with Partizan on the 2004 spooling - split a 150m spool and spool with 75m along with some quality backing.
Have been taken down to the backing with a 2004 once or twice when I have hooked king or blue salmon unintentionally and still landed the fish.
I make sure the knot that joins the braid to the mono is right at the bottom of the spool (braid lays over the top and does not catch).

Yer I have done this before, splitting a 150m spool it does work but a few problems I have run into is trying to figure out where that 75m mark is. Without a line counter it ends up being guesstimation or tring to count how many handel turns. Also you will have to put the braid on first then add backing then wind all that line onto another spool then do that again so the backing is on the top them put it back on the original spool to get that perfect level. (Unless you have access to a spooling machine)

the other option is to guess how much backing to add.

also as you fish you do tend to lose braid through tieing knots, bust offs, damaged line, the odd wind knot and I can get a little lazy and sometimes won't respool untill I have lost a fair bit of line so having as much braid on the spool as possible can come in handy for this reason.

[agz_67]

i put some unitka light jigging 0.8 pe on my certate 2004 and got exactly 100m on. got the next 100m for next time. makes it easy when they colour code the braid every 20m.

[redfinfisho]

Your right Agz I forgot to mention the colour changes can help with spooling a lot. Below is the colour changing info for this line.

UNITIKA EGING SUPER PE II:
Color Rotation : Every 10m / Yellow, Orange, Glow-Pink
Color Marking : Every 5m-Black(50cm)

[smackmaa]

Originally Posted by Pheonix

I solved the problem by buying PE.6 Braid in 300meter spools and by dividing it into three equal lengths. Result is just the correct amount of Braid to accommodate the spool (x 3 times).
Super PE, for example, comes in 300 meter spools.
Cheers,
Pheonix.

How do you measure it out exactly?

[Remax]

Sometimes a 150 yard spool is something to look out for, if available, i fit 150 yards on my 2004 with a small amount of backing to stop slippage, no wind knots as yet.
Plenty of good ideas in here thats for sure.