Best way to tie stingers

[yellow door 1]

I tied a stinger for the first time in years today and it reminded me of why I hate tying stingers I can never get the distance between the jig head and the stinger hook exactly how I want it.

I thought there has to be a better way than tying one up out in the wind.

So when I got home I youtubed up this method -

Has anyone given it a crack - I love the idea of being able to take it on and off to change plastics - also having one pretied and being able to slip it on in 2 seconds is very appealing.

[yellow door 1]

I think these are the sleeves he's using

[Kyle101]

Thats a brilliant idea! Cheers Larry!

[yellow door 1]

Yeah if that granny knot holds, it will be a great idea

- You could make up a board with multiple nails in it for all your favourite plastics and pretie millimeter perfect stingers first time - everytime. Or just drill heaps of holes and have a nail that you insert to get the desired distance

Its a game changing idea for me. I work hard to get the fish I do, so short takes that dont hook up are like getting stabbed in the heart

If I had multiple packs of stingers pretied in different breaking strains and sized hooks - all bases would be covered and laziness would never be a reason to not have a stinger.

Plus having the stinger attached to the gape of the hook would be a neater presentation less likely to tangle itself. I currently tie my stinger to the eye of the jighead and there is a tendancy for it to get tangled while casting. Or the worm will somehow wrap itself around the stinger leader and swim unnaturally. This mm perfect sleeved method has the potential to stop alot of that happening.

If it works out - tying and using a stinger will no longer be a painful exercise.

[yellow door 1]

Another question for all you stinger guru's.

I've been told to use braid for tying stingers. Because its more supple and wont impede the action of the lure.

I can see arguments for and against -Here's 30lb braid versus 30lb mono. (very poorly tied - just wanted to see how rigid a short length of 30lb trilene was. It much more supple than the flourocarbon I use but nowhere near as supple as braid.

I spose I'm most concerned about abrasion resistance and visibility - but having a lure that swims properly is about as important as it gets - especially when using worm imitations.

So if you have any experience using braid for stingers let me know - the species concerned are pinkies, bream and Jewies

[yellow door 1]

these should keep me going for a while

[Sloth]

I'd be interested to know how that goes for lighter lines for bream. I tie stingers using 8lb fc when I use them.

I can tie accurate lengths but takes a minute to do.

I have a steel ruler in which I've cut a shallow notch in the end, perpendicular to the measurements. The notch is just big enough that I can put a stinger hook in it so it sits securely. The notch sits in the middle of the gape. The eye hangs down the ruler.

I tie a uni to the jighead eye. The line is then passed through the stinger eye and I sit the stinger in the notch. Keeping tension on the line I can then tie a locked half-blood knot on the stinger. Once I've done the wraps I adjust the length of the finished stinger by sliding the jighead to the desired length on the ruler. I know when I cinch the knot I gain 5mm in length so take this into account.

The only other weirdness I do is when I cinch the half blood wraps I put a sewing needle through the last loop before I cinch. This allows me to get the knot snug and then I thread the needle with the tag and pull it through to do the "locked" bit of the knot. Doing this allows me to minimise how much length is added when I finally snug it.

I can pretty much get the length spot on now

[yellow door 1]

Originally Posted by Sloth

I'd be interested to know how that goes for lighter lines for bream. I tie stingers using 8lb fc when I use them.

I can tie accurate lengths but takes a minute to do.

I have a steel ruler in which I've cut a shallow notch in the end, perpendicular to the measurements. The notch is just big enough that I can put a stinger hook in it so it sits securely. The notch sits in the middle of the gape. The eye hangs down the ruler.

I tie a uni to the jighead eye. The line is then passed through the stinger eye and I sit the stinger in the notch. Keeping tension on the line I can then tie a locked half-blood knot on the stinger. Once I've done the wraps I adjust the length of the finished stinger by sliding the jighead to the desired length on the ruler. I know when I cinch the knot I gain 5mm in length so take this into account.

The only other weirdness I do is when I cinch the half blood wraps I put a sewing needle through the last loop before I cinch. This allows me to get the knot snug and then I thread the needle with the tag and pull it through to do the "locked" bit of the knot. Doing this allows me to minimise how much length is added when I finally snug it.

I can pretty much get the length spot on now

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Very clever.

I tried doing that with out a custom ruler, in the wind, on the weekend - This is what I came up with

That big bow in the line was causing me too much grief so its time to get it perfect.

[yellow door 1]

Originally Posted by Sloth

I'd be interested to know how that goes for lighter lines for bream. I tie stingers using 8lb fc when I use them.

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Yeah I'm hoping it will be ok - the guy in the Vid uses 12lb mono for walleye - and even if they cant fight - Judging by the way the way Yanks strike their fish - the 12lb will definitely hold on a bream.

I got some smaller sleeves that should be good for 6 to 8lb aswell. So I'll test them out on the scales and set my drag accordingly

[Sloth]

The other idea I was toying with is tying a loop knot instead of tying to the jighead. Means I can store the separate and if I need one themn I just slip the loop knot over the eye of the jighead or clip it into the lure clip directly.
That's why I thought your original post was neat.

[Sloth]

What size sleeves did you get for the lighter line? Seems 0 are the smallest?

[yellow door 1]

Originally Posted by Sloth

What size sleeves did you get for the lighter line? Seems 0 are the smallest?

In the video - he's using the size 1 sleeve for 10 to 12lb line.

So I'm hoping the size 0 will do 8 to 10 lb - and maybe even 6lb - But I'll be happy with 8lb.

[yellow door 1]

Originally Posted by Sloth

The other idea I was toying with is tying a loop knot instead of tying to the jighead. Means I can store the separate and if I need one themn I just slip the loop knot over the eye of the jighead or clip it into the lure clip directly.
That's why I thought your original post was neat.

Yeah - there are alot of advantages to this method compared with the way I used to do it

[yellow door 1]

Now I just need to find the most supple mono or flourocarbon ever made or tie a few with braid and see how they go.

[warren63]

I use a loop of braid for my stingers. Pretty easy once you have the correct length, just loop it thru the eye if the stinger hook and then loop it around the bend of the jig hook. I leave a slight tag to pull to take it off for changing plastics. Hope the photo helps.