Nano Tech...?

[speckledknob]

Just ordered a Tairyo nano speed plus 2 (2-4kg) based on what I thought I knew about tapers, components and blank manufacturers (and just bling in general) but now that it has arrived i'm not really sure what I'm looking at here.... is nano just another term for high quality carbon soaked in resin to the point where it feels like 90's glass or am I missing something?

I know that it is going to be nearly impossible to snap through high sticking (never really been a problem for me anyway), and you straight thru fluro bream nutters might have something to say about hook retention but other than that? I guess that's what I get for spending quite a bit of money on something I've never actually seen before but it's always worked out for me in the past.. this time I don't know... heavy, floppy.. definitely not what I expected for well over $300..?
It's going to take some adjusting coming from a Nitro that's for sure...

Anyone out there have a positive experience with these 'nano' rods?

note.. I already posted this on another forum but I figure you are the guys to ask - didn't realize there was like a 24 hour waiting period between registering and posting tho...

[matt jorg]

Mate I had one, a 1-3kg 7 footer, it was soft in action yes but you'd never break it!
I wasn't keen on the guides I thought they were too big for a 1-3kg stick and the rod could've been crisper and more accurate with some smaller guides.
It was light yes but it really didn't do enough to grab me.
Nice rod don't get me wrong, for $300 though I think you've been had and can do much better,my local has racks of em for $185. All variations of rod rating in 7 foot and 6'6.
Nano is an overused buzz word I reckon.
Go a daiwa rod for value for money,
Cheers Matt.

[tuan]

Originally Posted by speckledknob

Just ordered a Tairyo nano speed plus 2 (2-4kg) based on what I thought I knew about tapers, components and blank manufacturers (and just bling in general) but now that it has arrived i'm not really sure what I'm looking at here.... is nano just another term for high quality carbon soaked in resin to the point where it feels like 90's glass or am I missing something?

oh no, sorry to hear you don't like it mate .. there is a user on here that raves on and on and on about his nano taro rods ... as in every second post he mentions them etc. maybe he can change your mind as to how good the rod is ? can't remember his nickname

you just dont like it all ? coming from a nitro I am guessing you like your rods light, crisp, and super fast ...

[Piranha]

I picked one up in the shops a couple of weeks back, it weighed more than an old full fibergalss rod that my old man got in the late 40's as a kid.

Rod technology should be improving not going back to the dark ages imo.
Make use of it as a tomato stake

[speckledknob]

Light crisp and super fast are all I have really known the past year - this is such a massive contrast... but to be honest I haven't really tried it yet, other than a flick in the backyard and will definitely give it a fair chance... just the first impressions are a little scary - scary enough for me to make this thread, at least..

Originally Posted by matt jorg

Mate I had one, a 1-3kg 7 footer, it was soft in action yes but you'd never break it!
I wasn't keen on the guides I thought they were too big for a 1-3kg stick and the rod could've been crisper and more accurate with some smaller guides.
It was light yes but it really didn't do enough to grab me.
Nice rod don't get me wrong, for $300 though I think you've been had and can do much better,my local has racks of em for $185. All variations of rod rating in 7 foot and 6'6.
Nano is an overused buzz word I reckon.
Go a daiwa rod for value for money,
Cheers Matt.

Tairyo just put out a new line, are you sure its the same model? Cheapest I've seen them going for is $289 and that's only for the 1-3kg... but either way yeah I do feel a little bit hard done by ay.. Did look at a few of the Diawa's but thought bugger it I'll try something different for a change. Oops.. sure looks pretty though..

Will probably make a great little trout rod in the future or something... bait rod for snapper... will think of something

Specifically wanted bigger guides as I had plans to tackle the occasional Barra, Flattie etc with it as well. Will definitely still have a crack at it. never know this floppy thing may grow on me yet (wouldn't be the first time..)

[matt jorg]

Chuck us up a photo mate? I'm pretty sure I'm talking about the same rod.
Nice username too mate!
welcome to the forum!! good chat and banter on here

[speckledknob]

http://www.anglermate.com.au/pro/TAI...2/0814/61.html

And something I found during post package depression, if you're interested:

http://www.fishingmonthly.com.au/Art...-and-Nano-King


oh, and thanks! looks like you guys have a pretty good thing going on here...

[matt jorg]

Ahh sorry mate I was not aware of a new speed 2 only the nano king that looks way overpriced.
They look the goods at least.
Here's the one I was talking about... As I said good but not great
Good reading cheers for that.
There is a tairyo nut on here as mentioned I hope he chimes in and let's us know if he's used the new ones?
Cheers matt

[speckledknob]

The replacement warranty is $150 alone - I was thinking something had to be off there... (still had me worried though mate, haha..)

Just pulled her out for a couple more swings and there's still hope.. Tairyo make a hell of a lot of blanks you'd like to think they know what they are doing when they put out their own line of high end rods. At least that was my theory... Looking forward for this nut you are all talking about to pop in and set me straight anyway (as well as taking it for a proper test myself)

[Ozfactory]

I have the 1-3 kg nano king and i think its a very good rod. Really strong.

Also have the 1 -3 kg nano speed 2+ 6.6 ft. Its still pretty good but not as stiff in the tip as the king.

They can feel quite different then other rods best to use it and see if you like it.

One thing that i have found is that you can give em a hard time.

[Yellafella]

Hey mate, welcome to the forum!

I believe Mick from Mick's Gone Fishing uses Tairyo Rods a fait bit. You can find his posts on here pretty regularly, maybe shoot him a pm. Otherwise his blog is a good spot to try and catch him. Mick tends to push his gear to the limits so no doubt he can give you a fair honest opinion on them and how he's found them.

On a side note, I've actually got a tairyo nanospeed power bc rod; Not really the same class as yours though mate, given it's a much heavier stick for a different purpose. Awesome rod with brilliant amount of power. Unfortunately doesn't get enough use as it doesn't suit my finesse tactics (scary cause I've been cleaning out my gear and have been too afraid to put this fella up for sale as I quite like the outfit). It has stopped queenies on a dime and the overall build quality I can't really fault.

[speckledknob]

definitely planning on using it, asap! - just after having a play with it in person I was interested to know what people's thoughts are on these blanks, as they certainly feel different to normal graphite - at least much different to what I was expecting anyway. Will be sure to drag this thread up from the depths to let you guys know how it goes after a bit of time on the water.

This wasn't supposed to be a bash Tairyo thread, I hope people aren't seeing it as that.. more what are your thoughts on the current gen of 'nano technology'? (...and also what the hell am I supposed to do with this noodle? )

Oz do your tairyos have specific duties? ..reckon this might be a sign for me to stop relying on plastics so much..


Yella I've already bought the thing so I don't think I need to pm anyone about anything, just thought it was worth discussion... Maybe Mick'll come to the party... Looks like he might be sponsored by them? (not saying that means he is going to be dishonest, at all... just an observation) you are right about the power though they could have given this one a 2-7 rating and gotten away with it. Which I guess is one of nano's strengths... and just as well, now that I know the 6lb braid I spooled with actually has a breaking strain of 25lbs... lol what are braid manufacturers up to these days..?

[Yellafella]

No probs mate. I think ya only gotta see the fish Mick catches to figure if thr products any good lol. I hope the rod goes awesome mate. I wouldnt b surprised if it can take a barra or 2 down too :-)

[vxcalais]

I use a Tairyo Rod for light work but its a high modulus rod. I have tried their Nano Rods and I am sure they will admit size of size that Nano rods are a lil heavier. If the Nano resins cause it to be denser/stronger then that means more mass ? Naturally there will be some extra weight for extra strength ? Thats why when I bought a Gladiator Psyborg I got is in a 1-3kg version as it has the balls easily of any other 2-4kg rod out there. And it weights under 100g. How long this will be the case not sure............nano etc. With my Abu Salty Stage being a 2-4kg but strength and castability of a higher rods, this added strength for a soft tip 96 grams rod is due to X-Rap. Its a wrap of fibre glass spiralling the blank. Other brands are using it as well with rods out of Japan. And somehow Samurai and Nitro make even lighter and still strong rods etc. So it is quite interesting all the different Rod technologies etc.

[grave41]

you can have nano fiberglass if you want .Nano only refers to the resin used.If used in conjunction with high quality graphite you have an exceptional rod ,if used with s glass graphite mix well you have a strong rod that weights a ton.
3m invented nano resin so any rod using genuine 3m nano resin has there sticker on it.[Patented]Anything else is maybe nano copy.
Just food for thought.