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Old 04-03-2004, 02:01 AM
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PLatypus Super Braid??

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just wondering
does anyone use the platypus braids? wat are they like compared to fireline? are the stated breaking strain "understated" or do they actually break at the stated breaking strain??
I'm planning to try 20lb on my newly acquired ozflex FMT120 and 5000 aero-speros
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Old 23-03-2004, 10:03 AM
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This is of course only my opinion. The platypus braid is good but expensive.
Its difficult to compare to fireline as the Platypus is a braid and the fireline is a fusion, regardles of what certain retailers will tell you.
Braids are generally harder to tie knots in than fusions. though some braids are now treated (as opposed to coated) and have superior knot tying ability. eg FINS PRT and Tuffline XP.
Braids are generally limper than fusions.
I generally avoid braids when it comes to long casting with threadlines (prefer fusions). but prefer braids for heavy bottom bouncing.
My personal choice for braids is the the Fins and the Tuffline, with the tuffline being more economical.
The platypus braid breaking strain will definatly be underrated. there is I believe only 1 type of braid/fusion that meets igfa (?) game standards, meaning guaranteed to break just below its rated poundage, and the name escapes me at the moment. I'll post it if I can find it.
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Old 23-03-2004, 10:19 AM
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found it. its the FINS prt

http://www.finsfishing.com/
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Old 23-03-2004, 10:34 AM
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Thanks for that Angry
I would have thought it's good for casting being limper. Will definately have a look at the Fins PRT. Another line I've considered is the Berkley Whiplash seeing that's its on sale now for less than $50 for 300yd. Wat do U think??
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Old 24-03-2004, 09:55 AM
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The problem with it being SO limp is it loops and can wrap around your guide when you cast (I've had this happen and it aint fun) it can also tie itself in knots just washing around in the current, again knot fun (bad pun) and can be bloody difficult to untangle with the finer stuff.
As far as the berkley whiplash goes I've got no idea. I find Berkley bloody confusing actually, they have spiderwire, spiderwire fusion, gorilla braid, gorilla tough, fireline, fireline XDS, fireline micro ice (i get that one), whiplash etc etc. I can't under stand why they have so many diferent types, if they've improved an older product why keep both on the market?
Thats why I stick to what i know, the fireline works for me and the tuffline xp works for me. I had nothing but trouble with spider wire and gorrilla braid so now i use it as backing and heaps of unused spare in the shed. I don't mind with the gorilla braid so much, as I picked a lot up cheap over seas, but the spiderwire (10lb) was the most expensive line I've ever bought and it sucked.
One other thing to note as far as breaming goes, Fins and most of the others start at 10 lb, I've been told that the platypus goes lighter but I've never been able to find any. So stick with fireline for your light applications.
I've found the older heavier fireline to stiff in the heavier sizes, so for your 20lb I'd probably go with the FINS.

Hope I've helped. More likely I've just made your decision harder.
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Old 24-03-2004, 11:25 AM
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Angry,

Fins just released a 4lbs. With regards to wrapping of line around the rod tip, it really depends on the guides and spacings..
Haven't tried it though...

For 10lbs or heavier I prefer to use braid than fusion... it gets really wiry...(fusion line).
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Old 26-03-2004, 02:17 AM
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Thankx for that Angry and Traveller
I'll look into the Fins PRT lines and may even try out their lighter range.
Angry, Wat Gorilla Braid breaking strains U have left as spares?
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My experience, braids for o/heads is OK but for spin casting the fusion being a bit stiffer definetly helps minimise those nasty air knots. I know we should have the line on tight but after a few casts the airies do creep in and they are a real b###d to untangle, so all my spin gear has fireline.
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Old 16-04-2004, 06:06 AM
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thanks for the advice guys
got a 330yd spool of 20lb fireline coz it was on sale at Bluewater and a spool for 10lb Fins PRT for my laguna.
Cheers Guys
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Old 16-04-2004, 09:53 AM
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With my surf set up, I find soft uncoated braid is the best for long distance casting with spinning outfit.... I use either Yamatoyo Surf Fighter or the equivalent Gosen (not easy to get tho)...

For bream stuff... I'm going to try some 4lbs braid soon.... from fins... and I have another one coming from japan from Sunline. From what people tell me they are better than fusion line for casting but have less abrasion resistance.....

How far do you need to cast Ar-Hon???
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Old 18-04-2004, 09:50 AM
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as far as I can. Say......70m plus....
Have to get to the salmon or tuna school sitting some 100m plus out there!!
I can manage about 50m with 16lb mono on 10ft
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Old 18-04-2004, 06:24 PM
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If you need to cast 100m+, get a good surf set up. I would look at Comp Development blank as an option, but also depend on the weight that you need to cast out.

Reel wise, depends on what your pref are, spin or cast, spin I would look at something like Shimano Powercast or Daiwa Tourn Basia QD. Cast I would look at Mill CVZ-J, Shimano Conquest, etc.
Or tricked up Abu.

Uncoated Braid will probably add another 10m to the cast distance, but the whole set up as well as technique is very important to how far you will cast...including rig's aerodynamics.

Look at some of the long distance casting technique like hi-inertia, off the ground, etc....
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Old 18-04-2004, 11:18 PM
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Yeah
I'll need to check out the long casting techniques and spend more money again for a custom long cast rod!!
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Will using a pendulum casting technique helps?? I mainly use 60gm plus.
oh I've found the lure that achieve the best distance so far is the River2Sea searock in 75gm. Went out the furthest but dunno how far as I can barely see it land!!
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Old 19-04-2004, 04:02 AM
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Ar_hon,

You don't necessary need to get a custom surf rod, there are other options around.... I do have a few custom surf job, but if you're doing this then get decent guides, etc., don't use the Alconite crap, use a Ti-sic..... and use the Low riders... T-LCSG....

I do use 1 - 3 oz for lure casting... and pendulum does work, but just becareful to use the right shock leader if all the hi-inertia casting method... as it could be dangerous.....

I've used poppers, lasers, etc., searock I usually use for jigging so haven't used for spinning.... but might give it a try......
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