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Old 12-02-2013, 06:19 AM
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Quality light nylon mono for BC reels

Since restarting fishing after a 15 yr pause I took it for granted that braid is the line to use. Lately I have been experimenting with small BC reels and light mono for top water baits. It has been a lot of fun catch small barra and tarpon on 8-14lb mono.
Unlike the fishing scene in the US however we do not have a wide range of mono and little discussion about mono.
Any recommendations on a readily available but easily (supple and little memory) acquired nylon? I have avoided fluoro due to its stiffness and its tendency to sink.

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Old 12-02-2013, 06:29 AM
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Maxima fibre glow would be my pick
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:08 AM
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Platypus Super 100
Platypus Platinum
Playtpus Pre-test in yellow

These I've found are fantastic lines. I've used them all for different things in 8lb,10lb,20lb, 30lb and 50lb.

I've used the Super 100 alot on my Alveys for bait fishing for ages, very thin yet extremely strong and abrasion resistant. Have skull dragged many largish DohDohDohDoh in with the 20lb and it has hardly scuffed the line. Plus when I ran it on the Abu C3 baitcaster it worked great. Mind you i didn't do a lot of fishing with it compared to the use of the alveys. If you need hi vis then there is the pre test in yellow.

I've used maxima (not fibre glow though), scheider, tortue, platil, shimano, diawa, some unknown brands. I actual quite liked the scheider, platil stuff but that was when all monos were reasonaly thick (15 years ago). I use the scheider for my bottom dropper rigs when i'm bottom bashing.

For me I always go to platypus, I'm about to spool 2500 size bream reels with 2lb pretest and 4lb super 100.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:08 AM
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Zim man would probably be the one to ask.... He has experience in the way of us-style mono for bass
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:41 AM
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Blade has got my pick in there, its gotta be the platypus platnium, its super smooth not much memory so will be nice on a BC, personally used to use it on an old shimano corsair, pretty sure pound for pound it will be the thinnest of the lot too.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:35 PM
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Platypus Super 100
Platypus Platinum
Playtpus Pre-test in yellow

These I've found are fantastic lines. I've used them all for different things in 8lb,10lb,20lb, 30lb and 50lb.

I've used the Super 100 alot on my Alveys for bait fishing for ages, very thin yet extremely strong and abrasion resistant. Have skull dragged many largish DohDohDohDoh in with the 20lb and it has hardly scuffed the line. Plus when I ran it on the Abu C3 baitcaster it worked great. Mind you i didn't do a lot of fishing with it compared to the use of the alveys. If you need hi vis then there is the pre test in yellow.

I've used maxima (not fibre glow though), scheider, tortue, platil, shimano, diawa, some unknown brands. I actual quite liked the scheider, platil stuff but that was when all monos were reasonaly thick (15 years ago). I use the scheider for my bottom dropper rigs when i'm bottom bashing.

For me I always go to platypus, I'm about to spool 2500 size bream reels with 2lb pretest and 4lb super 100.
Awesome thx!

I was using a bit of left over platypus yesterday. I think it was either 10 or 12 lb bluish on a Conquest 50s. It fit just under 35m and was just so fun to cast top water plugs with. And for some inexplicable reason tarpon blow ups translated to hook ups much better than my usual braid/leader setups too.
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:54 PM
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Super 100 thickneses - 8 lb (0.21mm), 10 lb (0.24mm), 12 lb (0.26mm), 15 lb (0.29mm)

Platinum - 8 lb (0.24mm), 10 lb (0.27mm), 12 lb (0.29mm), 15 lb (0.32mm)

So the Super 100 is just a fraction thinner but not by much. I totally agree with Mike on his comments about the platinum. I've found the 100 to be very similar. The Super is very clear in color and can disappear making it a bit difficult to see where as the platinum has a similar colour to bluish grey which shows a little better when chucking the lure some distance. Other than that i don't think you can go wrong with either. And they are like only 16 bucks for a 300m spool

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Old 12-02-2013, 08:20 PM
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What about plat pretest?
I don't mind a bit of stretch, it seems to help with hook ups,
Abrasion resistance is also important esp for barra and I don't intend to use leaders.
Lastly supple handling is a nice to have but BC reels general treat the line better than spinners so that's not so big a problem. If I blow'em up bad its only 40m max of mono :-)

Last 6 months I've gone from 20lb PE to 10 to 6 then 4lb with long leader.
Then fluoro and now mono. I seem to be going backwards.
Might end up with an abu 1500c and a glass rod by the end of '13 the way I'm going!
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Old 13-02-2013, 01:52 AM
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Found the spool, was using platypus classic.
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Old 13-02-2013, 02:34 AM
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What about plat pretest?
I don't mind a bit of stretch, it seems to help with hook ups,
Abrasion resistance is also important esp for barra and I don't intend to use leaders.
Lastly supple handling is a nice to have but BC reels general treat the line better than spinners so that's not so big a problem. If I blow'em up bad its only 40m max of mono :-)

Last 6 months I've gone from 20lb PE to 10 to 6 then 4lb with long leader.
Then fluoro and now mono. I seem to be going backwards.
Might end up with an abu 1500c and a glass rod by the end of '13 the way I'm going!
You are going backwards - are you Benjamin Button???

Don't have much to offer as too Nylon - but remember the Pretest is built to IFGA rules and will break under the poundage listed where as the others will likely break over the stated breaking strain.

Nylon is still used as a leader in flyfishing, particularly for dry flies due to the better floatation, but is generally sold in lighter weights than what your talking about and short 30m spools. Other countries have a bigger range of weights due to toothier fly fishing targets. Might be useful if you were interested in running braid then a longer Nylon leader.

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Old 14-02-2013, 09:43 PM
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Bought a roll of platinum and a roll of super 100. I like the platinum for its suppleness but started out with the super100.
Frankly I'm quite amazed at the strength of the 10lb nylon.
Must be its stretch but it just seems to keep "hanging in" there. Even dragging a fish through pond weeds were achievable.
Starting to gain confidence in mono line I might start using some of my regular lures rather than the cheap cracked ones on their last legs.
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Old 15-02-2013, 01:28 AM
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Awesome thx!

I was using a bit of left over platypus yesterday. I think it was either 10 or 12 lb bluish on a Conquest 50s. It fit just under 35m and was just so fun to cast top water plugs with. And for some inexplicable reason tarpon blow ups translated to hook ups much better than my usual braid/leader setups too.
my geuss is your striking early and with nylon/mono the stretch compensates for this and results in more hookups as your not pulling the lure out of its mouth so quickly. then again some days they miss and some they dont, its tarpon and they are called homewreckers for a reason.
this is just a thought but im assuming your throwing small lures for barra given the tackle your using, are you confident that when a barra engulfs that lure you have enough abrasion resistance to get it back with 8-14lb? and in my experience a subtle line is usaully not really abrasive resistant.
personally i wouldnt do it but i generally want to cast a bit more than 35m and still have line on my reel. having said all that, if you want a good line ive liked toray bawo and evergreen bass seil
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Old 15-02-2013, 01:36 AM
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my geuss is your striking early and with nylon/mono the stretch compensates for this and results in more hookups as your not pulling the lure out of its mouth so quickly. then again some days they miss and some they dont, its tarpon and they are called homewreckers for a reason.
this is just a thought but im assuming your throwing small lures for barra given the tackle your using, are you confident that when a barra engulfs that lure you have enough abrasion resistance to get it back with 8-14lb? and in my experience a subtle line is usaully not really abrasive resistant.
personally i wouldnt do it but i generally want to cast a bit more than 35m and still have line on my reel. having said all that, if you want a good line ive liked toray bawo and evergreen bass seil
I rig up this way,

The last 15-20 is twisted into a twisted leader with the lure on the end. If I want to change lures then i start using perfection loops after cutting off the first.
I haven't had a Barra rough up both strands yet. It tends to roll around in the mouth and even out the abrasion
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