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Old 16-08-2009, 01:08 AM
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spooling braid??????

how ya doin fisho's?

just bought myself some 10lb sunline super pe for my luvias and was wondering if there is a proper way for spooling it on the reel? does the line have to come off the the spool anti clockwise or clockwise when i'm winding it onto my spool?

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Old 16-08-2009, 01:47 AM
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From what I know I do three or four wraps around the spool then a uni, tighten it down and make sure the line can't spin on the spool. Next ask someone to hold the spool of line for you with a screwdriver or something threw it, wind line off spool parallel so you don't get any twist, try to seat the line under a little pressure. Also have heard of ppl soaking line in warm water before spooling hope this helps, I've never had any problems doing it this way cheers
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Old 16-08-2009, 02:47 AM
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It鈥檚 important to wind on a mono backing first, to stop your braid from slipping on the spool..
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Old 16-08-2009, 03:34 AM
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Not saying you don't have to use mono backing, but I've never had problems with slipping braid as long as I use three or more wraps on the spool, anyone else not use backing?
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Old 16-08-2009, 05:05 AM
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Not saying you don't have to use mono backing, but I've never had problems with slipping braid as long as I use three or more wraps on the spool, anyone else not use backing?
I don't think it's very good idea to be telling new braid users not to use backing. A mono backing is a must, There is no reason why you wouldn't use it. My mate (new to the game), his line started slipping while we were out on the water, nothing we could do about it in that situation. Thankfully we had a spare combo or it would have been day ruined for him and it's an absolute pain to take braid off the spool, then wind mono backing, then wind the braid back on the spool without causing future wind knots..
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Old 16-08-2009, 05:31 AM
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I have too many rods and reels to mention and never put backing on. I can understand for people on a budget getting shorter spools of braid for topshotting in situatioins where you probably won't see the backing(breaming) but if you can afford it and you might tangle with larger fish taking a knot out of the mix is always better. I never have slippage problems. I wind my braid on by hand everytime. I keep alot of pressure on whilst spooling up so the braid doesn't cut in on itself under a fight. I always wrap it over itself when attaching to the spool. If you are unsure about it just put the backing on, but I've never needed it. From Bream to Sambos, Stella 1000 to Daiwa Dogfight. Fireline to Frog. No slippage.
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Old 16-08-2009, 05:34 AM
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how ya doin fisho's?

just bought myself some 10lb sunline super pe for my luvias and was wondering if there is a proper way for spooling it on the reel? does the line have to come off the the spool anti clockwise or clockwise when i'm winding it onto my spool?

cheers

shane
Hi Shane,
To answer to your question-the line should come off the spool the same way as your reel rotates when they face each other, assuming you are winding the reel and PE spool is on the floor.
On the other hand, if your reel rotates clockwise (when you are facing the reel's spool), then the PE line should come off its spool anti clockwise (again, looking into the spool). If it doesn't, flip the PE spool.

On a subject of backing, as you wouldn't use all 120 yards of braid when bream fishing, it makes sense to use half of spool. Therefore the backing is a must to fill up the spool to the lip.
If you are not sure, take both to the tackle store and they'll do it for you.

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Old 16-08-2009, 05:59 AM
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the only time i use backing is when there is not enough line to fill the spool,
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Old 16-08-2009, 08:46 PM
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true true minnowman, better safe than sorry! Cheers mate
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Old 16-08-2009, 09:38 PM
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true true minnowman, better safe than sorry! Cheers mate


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as you wouldn't use all 120 yards of braid when bream fishing, it makes sense to use half of spool. Therefore the backing is a must to fill up the spool to the lip.
If you are not sure, take both to the tackle store and they'll do it for you.
Alex is right, dividing your spool in two is one of the best ways to get the most out of your line.

I prefer my reels machine spooled, I just take them past my local tackle and a mate spools it up for me by machine, dead flat on the spool to the lip everytime
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Old 16-08-2009, 10:10 PM
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i always use a little bit of backing just to prevent slip not that i have ever had it happen thats cause i use backing so i dont know if it would slip if i didnt so i just keep doin it...

definantly fill all the way to the spooledge casting will be improved 5 fold
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Old 16-08-2009, 10:11 PM
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im with Stelth, i only ever mono back if compacity is an issue..

my regiment, both personally and doing bulk tourist spool ups at the shop with the machine is:

full spool of GSP...2 waps around the spool, uni knot, tighten, few wraps aroudn the spool then a band of clear sticky tape over the knot and few wraps. few more wraps, then i wipe the spool with a cloth and INOX to put a thin coat on the alloy for protection, then full her up under full tension. the pressure bites down on the tape holding it firmly in place.
NEVER had an issue with slip.

if im top shotting light lines, i will back with the eq. Breaking strain mono, INOX the spool, tie a bimini double in the GSP in order to creat bulk and tie a albright to the mono and fill her up.

larger breaking strains from 15kg up ill bimini both the mono backing and the GSP and cats paw them together.

as for direction, Alex has got you on the right track. its not as important with GSP's where mono has a spool memory and has to be spooled correctly to avoid 'spiderman' syndrome...

the ONLY reason for slippage is the GSP is not packed on tight enough...meaning you will have 2 possibel problems...
#1 slippage and or #2 the line will cut into itself under load...both bad news...

braid doesnt stretch and will not contract like mono does when spooled under tension. the tighter you put it on the better..ALWAYS !
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