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Old 04-10-2006, 10:34 AM
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Best brand for Line System, max lb in bream fishing, what ya reckon? ....

I'm out of leader material and got to get some urgently on Saturday. Just finished my Vanish and sample pack of Seaguar. Trying to decide what brand to go for next and what weight line.

The leader will be for the 6lb Line System. Is there such as thing as the best brand most suited for Line System? Should I go to 8lb, 10lb or 12lb? When I used to use fireline, I used to double the braid i.e. 4lb fireline thus 8lb leader. I was thinking of buying an 8lb and a 10lb, as 12 lb is too much, they can see the line?

In addition what is the highest lb line you would use when bream fishing (not talking oyster racks, etc)

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Old 04-10-2006, 10:43 AM
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I've been using 6 and 8lb Yamatoyo few years now and haven't found something to make me change yet. I don't use more than 8lb and rarely lose fish. Have a chat to Sewelly if you're interested, he can help.
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Old 04-10-2006, 10:46 AM
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Pesonally Carol i wouldn't go any heavier than 8lb and prefer 6lb yamatoyo myself, fishing around heavy snags and structure I usually use 8lb, either yamatoyo or the linesystems super egging stuff.
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Old 04-10-2006, 06:47 PM
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i fish all my rods with 4lb Yamatoyo and Linesystems flurocarbon, i find it to be just fine and still land good fish on it without problems. Its a fair bit thinner than 6lb i find and the hook up rates reflected that to me, so now i cant change .

only time i might tie 6lb is fishing structure in the Murry when your constantly pulling your leader over branches of tree's... just gives you that little more when the line is fraying.

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Old 04-10-2006, 07:21 PM
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Yeah 4lb and 6lb for me as well. Dad and I use a bit of everything these days, from Nitlon, Siglon and Line Systems.

For 6lb Line Systems, you'll be fine fishing 4lb leaders on flats, and 6/8lb on structure. With 4lb, just make sure you do 10-12turns when tying your knots.


I can't find any 2lb and 3lb flurocarbon anywhere though. Does anyone know who sells the stuff here in Australia? And who the supplier is, so I can order it through work.

Sorry for the highjack Carol.

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Old 04-10-2006, 07:46 PM
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I've been using the Linesystems Egging Fluorocarbon, which was good, but I now use the Bass Hard "First Moving" Fluorocarbon. It comes in 150m spools. It is really soft and fairly thin for it's strength. It's super tough as well, struggle to bust the six pound on snags!
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Old 04-10-2006, 08:15 PM
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Thanks guys for your help, Jesus, how embarassing and I was even thinking of going 10lb and 12lb!!! OK, I'll get 8lb and 4lb or 6lb depending on what I find and Yama it is then since a lot brag about this line.

You're not hijacking Rusk, in fact, hope you get a response here and it is interesting to know. As you know, quiet obvious from my questions that I don't know much
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Old 04-10-2006, 08:42 PM
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ill also add
im hooked onto nitlon 4lb,5lb,6lb flurocarbon i find its awsome to tie knots with and the abbrasive resistance on it is unbelievable.. i mean carol there are alot of flurocarbons on the market and im sure whateva you choose wont let you down....

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Old 04-10-2006, 08:57 PM
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Ruski,
Drop an email to sales@breammaster.com as we may have some 2lb in, but not on the site. I think there may be some in the Yamatoyo Soft.

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Old 04-10-2006, 09:13 PM
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Leader lb

G'day Carol,

I prefer 6lb leaders. I think that 8lb is way too heavy, that's just my opinion. I think that 6lb Berkley Vanish Leader would be the best.

I find that 6lb can take a fair flogging before weakening and scuffing up. But if it runs over something with a nice point to it, you can say goodbye to youre fishy lol.

Hope this helps, Nugget.
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Old 04-10-2006, 09:33 PM
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Hey Nugget, thanks for trying to help however I will go 8lb. You may not be aware but these guys are the professionals, they fish the comps and have been for years and they know their stuff. In addition fishing from a boat is a bit different from fishing shorebased, snags and rocks and stuff you wouldn't get shorebashing. My suggestion is we are both new, read what you can when these guys post, and just follow them!
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Old 04-10-2006, 09:47 PM
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I have never used anything heavier than 8lb and 90 percent of the time I fish 6lb in the Momoi Flurocarbon but do still use Yamatoyo as well. They are both excellent.
Ruski, Momoi make a 3lb leader that is very thin. I use it a bit but it is a little scary around structure. No problems on the flats though. There is 8 and 10 listed in the online store but as Bear suggested if you email the sales team they can probably sort you out with some of the 3lb. It is great for clear water and spooky fish.

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Old 04-10-2006, 09:57 PM
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Something that I forgot to mention for carol. One of the reasons for using lighter leader other than the fact that it is harder to see is that heavy leader can effect the action of lighter hard bodies and plastics. Heavier leader is stiffer and memory in the line from being on a small spool is harder to get out. If you take a couple of metres of heavy leader off a spool and let it lay on the ground you will notice that it will generally sit in a spiral along the floor. If you are fishing the larger hard bodies or heavy jig heads either the weight or the water pressure on the lure will pull the coils out of the line, however a small hard body does not have enough resistance in the water to straighten the leader. This can cause the lure to swim off line and behave badly. It's something that is easier to show than try to explain but hopefully you get the idea.

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Old 04-10-2006, 10:07 PM
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Leader choice is a strange one. 90% of the time I use 4lb Yama regardless of the structure. My thought is, if you cant stop a fish in heavy cover your leader size isnt going to make alot of difference.
I find I get alot more hits with the 4lb. I have used 6 8 and even 10lb Yama and its all good stuff (altho 10lb can make large knots)

I should clarify that I use 8lb with HB's purely to save me loosing to many HB's when casting deep into trees
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Old 04-10-2006, 10:12 PM
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I am with spaniel on Nitlon. Great stuff and never let me down. I am using 6, 8 lb on bream and 10 on flatties, salmon, pinks and trout (big) when fishing with tassies.

Good value for money too.

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