So honestly?

[Bassifier]

Are you guys really impressed with flourocarbon lines?
I have fished with both extensivly (about 4yrs) and still head back to quality Mono..
I know, flouro rules right...
what, cause its more expensive??
But come on, be honest with yourselves... does it really?
I Fish with Joe (Pukka) most of the time and he solely uses flouro..
Our catch rates are on par.
Go get some good mono and put the flouro away for a while..
See if you can spot the difference.... its pretty damn hard! except for the difference imparted on the wallet!

[Dave W]

It's too late at night to be opening such a huuuge can of worms

I swear by Siglon Flourocarbon, irrelevent of whether the fish notice it more or less because it's a Flouro.

I like the stiffness of it (IMHO a stiff leader is much better than a limp leader for Breamin'), the lack of memory, abrasion resistence and colour of the line itself - I know I can see it in the water, so I'm pretty sure the fish can.

It's a personal thing, I've tried plenty of other lines as leaders, had some shocking results (don't ask me about Super 100 ) and keep coming back to the Siglon, because I know I can trust it.

As for the price.... it's too bloody much, especially when you chew through it like we do - but what price do you put on fishing confidently?

That'll do for now - and the first person to make a 'stiffy' joke gets a smacking

Cheers,

[Bassifier]

love a can "o" worms, but worms are pretty limp aint they dave!

[Dave W]

I should've said no stiffy or limp jokes.......

I believe if you tell people the sky is purple enough times then they will believe it. Same goes for Flouro, if you keep telling people that it's invisable under water then they will believe it.

As far as I'm concerned its all marketing hype which seems to be fooling people, I can see no visible difference under water betweeen flouro and the same diameter mono or co-polymer line and as far as fish goes, who knows what they see.

I have found flouro to have a lesser knot strength then comparable monos and the price is ridiculous. Unlike Dave I prefer a soft line that tends to move about more and I believe gives a much more natural presentation, but each to their own.

I believe the only thing that makes a line less visable is less line, I bet there are a thousand guys out there who could testify that they have for instance dropped from 10lb leader down to 6lb and have got a heap more hits, but I dont think there are many guys who could honestly say I went from 10lb mono to 10lb flouro (same diameter) and the strike rate improved.

[Bassifier]

I share pretty much the exaxt same thoughts Mick, I believe the limper the better... And that it comes down to diameter most importantly
Thanks for the good replies guys..

[Ravin]

I use mono leaders & prefer a supple one. I have been using Platypus Platinum & I'm very happy with it. I ditched all my fluoro a few months back cause I was not happy with the knot strength at all although I did not try Siglon & I have heard its pretty good as far as knot strength. I have found that while the abrasion resistant property of fluoro may help if you meet a bream armed with 600 grit emery paper when your leader hits sharp oysters etc doesn't matter whether its mono or fluoro its all over.

[chris_lemess]

Ok look, without taking price into consideration (I got my Toray fluoro from Japan and it is awesome stuff that cost me next to nothing) YES there is a CLEAR difference between the two - it is impossible to argue otherwise!

Ok, get two traces, one fluoro and one mono. Now cast into a snag holding some decent fish. Double hookup, both fish run into the snag, but both are beaten and brought back to the boat. LOOK at the leaders. The mono? Frayed to death no doubt. Small nicks and notches in the line, necessitating a re-tie. Look at the Fluorocarbon leader... smooth as a baby's bum, just the same as it was when it was cast in there. I've tested this over and over and it's the same every time. I very rarely have to re-tie a fluoro leader because it's worn out, whereas no matter where a mono leader is dragged in difficult country, it is going to come out needing a change!

This is pretty much the sole reason I use the stuff, not because of it being harder to see, or stiffer etc etc. And I'm going to keep using it because I know I lose less fish because of it, and waste less time re-tying.

cheers

[fatman]

I am all for flourocarbon leaders.
I experimented with them while fishing the Shoalhaven. I ran different leaders off the same mainline, using the same bait.
Of the 14 fish caught,-
8 on Flouroflex (7lb) ,
3 on the Black Magic flourocarbon (10lb),
2 on the Penn 10X mono (9lb)
1 on the Maxima mono (6lb)
0 on the Siglon flouro ( 6lb)

All rigs were identical (exept leader material).
I have repeated this experiment a few times with similar results.

FATMAN

[donfish]

Hey Mick the sky is purple.

Hey it is purple , I'm going out first thing in the morning and buying some Flouro

[Bassifier]

Originally posted by chris_lemess
Ok look, without taking price into consideration (I got my Toray fluoro from Japan and it is awesome stuff that cost me next to nothing) YES there is a CLEAR difference between the two - it is impossible to argue otherwise!

Ok, get two traces, one fluoro and one mono. Now cast into a snag holding some decent fish. Double hookup, both fish run into the snag, but both are beaten and brought back to the boat. LOOK at the leaders. The mono? Frayed to death no doubt. Small nicks and notches in the line, necessitating a re-tie. Look at the Fluorocarbon leader... smooth as a baby's bum, just the same as it was when it was cast in there. I've tested this over and over and it's the same every time. I very rarely have to re-tie a fluoro leader because it's worn out, whereas no matter where a mono leader is dragged in difficult country, it is going to come out needing a change!

This is pretty much the sole reason I use the stuff, not because of it being harder to see, or stiffer etc etc. And I'm going to keep using it because I know I lose less fish because of it, and waste less time re-tying.

cheers

The test you suggest is practically impossible, way to many variables....
How can this be proof that flouros are better?
Whats needed is a non sponsored test in a clinical environment!

Unfortunatly cash for comment dictates that this will never happen

[chris_lemess]

Hey come on! What I said makes perfect sense! After months of fishing fluorocarbon (don't know why you are making reference to 'cash for comments') out of personal choice, I can safely say that fluorocarbon will come out of snags with less wear and tear than mono. I have learnt this the hard way many a time after listening to people tell me that fluorocarbon is a waste of money because its advantages are minimal. After buying the stuff and using it AND mono, in snaggy country and around mussel encrusted pylons, it is safe to say that I am more confident using fluorocarbon because of its abrasion-resistant properties.

And for your information, I'm not sponsored by the fluorocarbon brand I use, I bought it and paid full price for it, so it truly is out of personal choice that I use the stuff.

Ok?

[bubble]

I have run both Flouro and Mono in my pool (ultra clear) and the difference is very noticible.....flouro is harder to detect. I have never had an issue with knots either. All my knots I finish off with a dab of super-glue and that includes when I am chasing bigger fish offshore. Great when chasing flatties as well, great abrasion resistance.
So flouro it is for me and hang the expense....

[pete s]

i use fluoro solely for its toughness. if the conditions allow it, even if the waters crystal clear, i'll use mono. its a question of being flexible and using what the conditions and your confidence allow.

the casting siglon fluoro is rather nice , $25 for 200 metres isnt expensive in my opinion.