daiwa commander armouraider or battler

[macca64]

Thinking of getting 1 guys as a flathead rod andbody seen or used 1 that can give me an idea if it would suit. Or am I better spending the extra 100 and getting the battler the only reason I'm thinking a commander us the 2 piece factor but if the battle is way better I might go that way.

[macca64]

Just about to order a battler 3-6kg anyone seen 1 and your thoughts ?

[billaco]

The battler has daiwas highest quality SVF blank, as apposed to the HVF of the commander rods, which in my opinion is worth the extra coin .

[manno]

Originally Posted by billaco

The battler has daiwas highest quality SVF blank, as apposed to the HVF of the commander rods, which in my opinion is worth the extra coin .

Second highest blank.

[seanh]

Just checked out a few Battler and Commaner series rods today. Crazy light .Easily the lightest rods I've ever picked up.

[Kinga86]

These rods are feather light. Compared my mates Battler 7' 2-4kg to my Nitro 6'6" 1-2kg and the Battler was the lighter rod even with its longer length and heavier rating!

[Ryan9908]

hi,
3-6kg rod for flathead is overkilled mate unless you are catching 80cm+ flatheads. I generally used 1-2kg rods in estuaries, 2-4kg Max.

The light weight rod is just simply marketing. it's meaningless to get the lightest rod, unless it can match the lightest reel in the market. I own a few lightest rods in the market and to be honest you will need a heavier reel to balance it properly.

just some opinion from a fishing gear enthusiast and a wannabe pro angler hope that helps.

[matt jorg]

Originally Posted by Ryan9908

hi,
3-6kg rod for flathead is overkilled mate unless you are catching 80cm+ flatheads. I generally used 1-2kg rods in estuaries, 2-4kg Max.

The light weight rod is just simply marketing. it's meaningless to get the lightest rod, unless it can match the lightest reel in the market. I own a few lightest rods in the market and to be honest you will need a heavier reel to balance it properly.

just some opinion from a fishing gear enthusiast and a wannabe pro angler hope that helps.

Don't agree at all with this, a 3-6kg battler will be good for flatties if youre planning on using leaders over 8lb. The higher the kg rating in the ags the bigger and more robust the guides are.. So it'll be great.

A 3-6 kg battler will feel like a ultralight bream rod in your hand, so you can match it to a small reel and still have the ability to cast large plastics if you wish to, making it ideal for Jew as well.

[gummy guy]

Originally Posted by manno

Second highest blank.

So what's the highest in your opinion?

[manno]

Not an opinion and not comparing brands. Just talking daiwa and theirs is the SVF Compile-X mate. They do make an svz or compile z or something thats one up from the compile-X but i assume that must be a jdm thing cos ive only seen the Compile-X in aus. So the straight SVF is the second tier blank......that we get anyway.

[Ryan9908]

Originally Posted by matt jorg

Don't agree at all with this, a 3-6kg battler will be good for flatties if youre planning on using leaders over 8lb. The higher the kg rating in the ags the bigger and more robust the guides are.. So it'll be great.

A 3-6 kg battler will feel like a ultralight bream rod in your hand, so you can match it to a small reel and still have the ability to cast large plastics if you wish to, making it ideal for Jew as well.

No mate I caught a 65cm flathead on a 1-2kg rod and it was totally fine, If you want one step up and go over 8lb I would then go 2-4kg rod. It's rare for me to go over 8lb in the river because you will stop getting bites from bream. And I don't see there is many monster fish around in the river that you need a 3-6kg rod all the time. 3-6kg rod is also too stiff for most species you will catch in the river, you won't be getting the nice parabolic curve, it's like holding a machine gun and trying to hunt rabbit if you know what I mean

But I agree with you if you use that 3-6 kg battler as an all rounder for both estuary and salt water fishing.

[matt jorg]

All good but the guy wants advice on the 3-6kg rod.
I use the 1-2 and 2-4kg battler and both can't handle above 8lb leader.
It's more about the guides mate.
I also use the 4-8kg battler and can assure him even that is light enough in the hand for large estuary targets.
The rod he wants will be fine.

[CJ BRIBIE]

The problem with a 1-2kg or 2-4kg rod is that you'll be hard pressed finding one that can throw 1/4oz and up comfortably. Yes you can catch a metre fish on a 1-2kg rod, but casting a jackall mask vibe or a 5inch jerkshad is a whole other story; which is exactly why I've got an armouraider on the way

[gummy guy]

Originally Posted by CJ BRIBIE

The problem with a 1-2kg or 2-4kg rod is that you'll be hard pressed finding one that can throw 1/4oz and up comfortably. Yes you can catch a metre fish on a 1-2kg rod, but casting a jackall mask vibe or a 5inch jerkshad is a whole other story; which is exactly why I've got an armouraider on the way

Good point to consider. One that often gets forgotten when blanks are recommended... While line weights are important to balance a rod, man ageing casting weight is as important

[Pies1010]

hey mate, did you end up getting the battler? I'm looking at one for yellas, EPs, bass, pinks, mulloway, etc.