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Old 25-10-2019, 07:15 PM
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Always depends on what line thickness is being used on braid and leader to how thick the knot will be,do you want the knot to wind on the spool or just sit in front.How many guides and how small are they on the rod usually BC rods are smaller,just different circumstances for every fisho to work out for the best outcome. Remembering FG & PR are meant to be the thinnest & strongest knots to date.
On some rods i can feel the knot coming through the guides rubbing like sandpaper,on other rods using the same reel not so noticeable.
Yeah I'd long suspected bulky knots like double uni's were a cause of more guide wraps while casting

When that knot head butts each guide on the way through - there must be momentary bunching of line behind it - and the knot would also get deflected sideways on impact - (especially with light or unweighted lures I use alot of)

Obviously the lighter the line being used, the less impact each head butt has - but apart from only having to only tie one leader knot a session - the FG's dramatically decreased the amount of guide wraps I was getting.

All my rods are lower end, off the shelf, units - and the differences between the knots performances was quite easy to identify.

But before tying the FG's I would blame wind knots and guide wraps on my cheap old gear - turns out that wasnt entirely true - I'd just been tying the wrong knot
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Old 25-10-2019, 07:29 PM
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" i can hear " I wish I could !!!

There was a joke about loud music affecting the hearing of Dogs.
The Conclusion, Keep Your Dogs Away From Your Stereo !!!!!!!!

AINT SO FUNNY NOW !!!!!!!!!
- When I cast my first FG - I thought I was going deaf - I was used to the tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, - as my old knots bumped through the guides.

Up until that point -Every cast I'd made with leaders, made a distinctive sound - and then.....it was gone.

I genuinely stopped after the first cast and looked at the knot like a confused dog. For a second, I was puzzled, - How could a knot could be cast with so little noise? Did it actually go through the guides?

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Old 25-10-2019, 08:45 PM
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Yeah I'd long suspected bulky knots like double uni's were a cause of more guide wraps while casting

When that knot head butts each guide on the way through - there must be momentary bunching of line behind it - and the knot would also get deflected sideways on impact - (especially with light or unweighted lures I use alot of)

Obviously the lighter the line being used, the less impact each head butt has - but apart from only having to only tie one leader knot a session - the FG's dramatically decreased the amount of guide wraps I was getting.

All my rods are lower end, off the shelf, units - and the differences between the knots performances was quite easy to identify.

But before tying the FG's I would blame wind knots and guide wraps on my cheap old gear - turns out that wasnt entirely true - I'd just been tying the wrong knot
There are solutions re braid,leader,rod guides,reels and knots.
Another way around it is to use a casting fluorocarbon line all the way through,only one knot at the end.
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