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Old 08-03-2018, 10:25 PM
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a bit of help please

hi guys,
a few questions if i can please,i have done a bit of fishing in the past but really am probably the worst fisherman going around so hence the post.
i am really lucky to have yellow fin whiting literally swim straight past my door (twenty feet)and i have been getting a good feed of late with bait but would love to get into lures.
my reasons for this as the wife and i love caravanning and i thought not having to worry about bait all the time would be a huge plus.
so a few questions please i need a good 7' rod,a good lure and some even better advice.
i have a brand new shimano sedona 2500 in the cupboard and need to get a cheap spinning rod to suit.i just want to experiment first up. i have read about the bass day sugar pen hf119 but you just can't buy them ,any other ideas?
i have some 12 pound braid will that surfice?
another question please can someone explain what a leader is and how to set it up?
last but not least, the incoming tide travels right to left and i would like to cast from the left and retrieve to the right coming back against the tide would this be ok?
thanks a lot
paul
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:18 AM
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hi guys,
a few questions if i can please,i have done a bit of fishing in the past but really am probably the worst fisherman going around so hence the post.
i am really lucky to have yellow fin whiting literally swim straight past my door (twenty feet)and i have been getting a good feed of late with bait but would love to get into lures.
my reasons for this as the wife and i love caravanning and i thought not having to worry about bait all the time would be a huge plus.
so a few questions please i need a good 7' rod,a good lure and some even better advice.
i have a brand new shimano sedona 2500 in the cupboard and need to get a cheap spinning rod to suit.i just want to experiment first up. i have read about the bass day sugar pen hf119 but you just can't buy them ,any other ideas?
i have some 12 pound braid will that surfice?
another question please can someone explain what a leader is and how to set it up?
last but not least, the incoming tide travels right to left and i would like to cast from the left and retrieve to the right coming back against the tide would this be ok?
thanks a lot
paul
Gday Paul - I've never fished for sand whiting but I've got a couple of King George on Gulp 6 inch worm.

While you are waiting for the Popper guys to reply - you might want to watch some of these youtube vids - Plenty of tips - And Judging by the presenters - they wont be shy on recommending some of shimano's finest popping out fits

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ing+on+poppers
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Old 09-03-2018, 03:23 AM
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C264 is another good colour but to be honest any colour will do the job

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Old 09-03-2018, 06:32 AM
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Whats your budget for the rod? Sugapens are good but take a bit of work getting used to the technique. Poppers like the atomic pop 50 are also worth trying out. They track in a straight line and in my opinion make hooking up a bit easier. That new sugapen colour C264 looks great. If you are still after the hf119 they are available online. Sen me a pm and I'll give you the link. Last time I put a shops name up I got black marked so not sure Its allowed.

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Old 09-03-2018, 08:18 AM
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Zipbaits skinny pop 70's would be worth a shot as well Regards HBt.
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:03 PM
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Gday paul,

Iíll answer a few of your other questions about geese set up, although others may have different thoughts. 12lb braid might be a bit more than you need. It depends on a manufacturer a bit as braid advertised as 12lb might actually break closer to 20 (hello Fins). Iíd say 6-8lb will be fine.

A leader is a thin bit of (usually) fluorocarbon line you tie to the end of the braid. Itís clear and tends to be more supple so it helps a lot with finesse fishing as youíre less likely to scare the fish. You would typically have about 5 or so feet of it. You tie your lure to the end of it. I usually have it a lower breaking strain than the main line, but this varies from person to person and site to site. For example, you might want higher breaking strain if casting around rocks or oyster racks or anything else thatís a bit abrasive on the line.

Your idea Re the direction to cast is fine, although larger fish often sit their facing the current so your lure might be coming up behind them, so Iíd mix it up. I donít think itís a matter of one way not working. id try your way and the other way and see what works. Doing it your way will prob be easier to control the lure though depending on how fast the current is.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:20 PM
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Hi mate

I’ll do my best to assist but unfortunately I’ve yet to catch Whiting on lures, then again I’ve not put much effort in to it either.
What I do know is you’ll have a lot more fun with a 1-3kg rod, a 1000 size reel, I like the Shimano Sienna it’s cheap and a great reel. I think the lighter the line the better you’ll do, I would go 6lb braid with a 4lb leader. Unfortunately I don’t know what sort of leader would be best but I’d suggest a line that floats.

Your 2000 size reel will be awesome for Salmon, I used a 2500 last season and had no problems pulling in Salmon over 800. I also use a 2000 size reel when Bream fishing in heavy snags so I can skull drag them out of the snag before they wrap me up.

Good luck, tight lines and welcome to the site mate.
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Old 12-03-2018, 04:38 AM
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G,day, I've been surface luring for whiting for a while now, you're setup, 7ft rod and reel will be fine lighter braid 4lb and leader 4lb or 6lb mono or fluorocarbon will work. For lures there is lots that catch whiting, my preferance is the sugarpen hf119 it just works, another one that's been cleaning up lately the zipbaits skinny pop jr70mm for me. Retrieve,s. Use the wind!!! Get it behind you're back and cast up and gain more distance, with sugarpens I keep the retrieve constant walking into the windchop skinnys more of a short light ripping retrieve, really look hard at the wake just behind the lure for changes this is when a sneeaky pause can make the difference be warned this is highly addictive.
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Old 12-03-2018, 09:48 AM
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I've caught more whiting on gulp turtleback worms than any other lure
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Hey,
I think lure colours are fairly often designed to catch fishermen more than fish, especially topwaters.
Think about what a fish can actually see when looking up into the bright sky...something either dark, shiny or semi transperent.
Line I'd recommend 4-6lb braid and whatever leader tickles your fancy but keep it short. Long fc leaders can sink down and bog out the lure. To clarify, braid is a line made of multiple strands braided together and is highly visible with good strength but poor abrasion resistant...a leader is often flurocarbon or mono and is the oppoaite to braid. These are joined by a variety of knots..google is ur friend here
A rod that is aroubd 6ft 6 to 7ft 6 is perfect.
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:47 PM
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if you cannot find the bassday colour anywhere then i can reccomend you try these

https://daiwafishing.com.au/products...ppery-dog-65f/

try the Purple suji prawn which is sort of a similar colour
these lures are readily available at most tackle stores now
they walk the dog very easy and cast well too
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Old 08-05-2018, 04:45 AM
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Second steve's recomendation, the silver wolf slippery dogs work incredibly well
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Old 08-05-2018, 06:18 AM
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Two months and no response Paul.

Where are you located buddy, will help heaps with recommendations.

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Old 08-05-2018, 11:04 PM
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Light 7 ft setup is fine with PE 0.8 main line braid, any surface lure as long as u can cover good distance. And Heavy leader, some go as high as 20lb, the secret is to keep it moving and tracking as straight as possible hench the heavy leader.
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