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......so what reel specifications matter?
I think it's clear from the last thread that a) a 1000 size reel has enough line capacity for bream fishing and b) for most applications it also has enough drag. So what reel specifications actually matter for bream fishing? I think some of them are as follows:
retrieve rate Most people seem to say a low retrieve rate is best for most bream styles because it keeps the lure moving slowly and low gear ratios mean less resistance when the handle is turned, giving more control. A faster retrieve rate is only used when fishing around snags to muscle the fish out quickly, and when using fast retrieve lures. Weight The key seems to be not too heavy and balanced to the rod. Casting distance Not something I know much about - reviews of the Daiwa Tournament SS emphasise it's casting distance so clearly some reels do this better than others. Be interesting to know if anyone has done any scientific/proper tests. Line lay Better reels lay the line more evenly which is probably tied to casting distance and avoidance of wind knots. Handle circumference and knob style Some people will prefer larger, some smaller. This one seems to be entirely individual preference. Durability A reel needs to be able to produce sustained performance and not break or deteriorate. This feature includes the factory lubrication and seals, ease of cleaning, non-corrosion features and waterproofness. Line twist A good reel reduces line twist which reduces tangles. I haven't mentioned number of bearings or materials etc because from what I can tell these vary but don't indicate a reels performance (ie more bearings doesn't make it a better reel). I don't claim to be an expert but welcome any thoughts or additions to this list. Added drag quality The drag has to be smooth and consistent at all settings Last edited by silver; 31-08-2014 at 05:03 AM. |
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I'm a complete novice, so am looking forward to everyone's opinions. For me, a lot of it comes down to personal preference.
My main thought process when selecting reels is balance, weight and function. I have two reels for my bream fishing ( both in 1000 size) As I only really target smaller estuary fish, 1000 size are perfect for me. And with the quality of reels these days, I feel that 1000 size could handle a fair amount of punishment on the standard estuary species that I run into in the hacking and George's rivers.
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imo would prefer 2000-2004-2506 for bream,rather than 1000.The greater spool diameter of 2000 allows a bit longer cast,besides unlike the 1000, they have a normal size gears-so smoother and last longer.The comfortable weight is up to 220gr max.imo.Quality line laying is much more important here than the amount of bearings.
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It depends on how much you want to pay really in these times. If I had $500 bucks on a bream combo, I would $150 on the reel and $275 on the rod and the rest on the line. Line is very important when breaming.
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I prefer a faster gear ratio for any type of lure fishing, the ability to quickly wind up slack/wind in a lure or fish is a huge bonus. With hard bodies just slow the retrieve right down.
You can always reel slower with a high gear reel but when it comes to burning a lure in a low gear reel is a pain in the ass in comparison. |
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How I buy a reel: The big three
1. Speed. Over 5:0 - fishing plastics on the bottom (lift and drop) or fast metals for Pelagics Under 5:0 - fishing slow plastics and hard body lures Generally the slower the retrieve the smoother the reel is. So if you can get a larger reel with a slower retrieve you will end up with a smoother reel and some will say a longer cast. As long as the reel isn't too heavy for your rod then this is the ultimate win. 2. Drag. This is more of an indulgence for those of us who like to hear drag pinging off but it never hurts to choose a drag that suits your style. Look to the Japanese models and you will see what appropriate drag is. Most bream fishing uses bugger all drag like 1kg, and the 7kg of drag coming out on Aussie models is pointless and robs you of the awesome fine tuning and drama you get with the Jdm spools. 3. Weight. This is not light vs heavy it's about what balances with your rod. Really the only way to find this out is to try it or try something similar. I balance by gripping the rod how I normally would then releasing all fingers except the index . If the rod dramatically dips forward your reel is too light. Backward and it's too heavy. In the real world you can tell a reel is too light because it feels like the rod might go in after the lure when you give it a solid cast. Example: I want a reel for fishing small hardbodies and my rod weighs 90 grams. My testing with other reels suggest I'm looking for something a little under 200 grams to balance it. I have narrowed it down to two reels. Sustain 1000 - 6:0 receive ratio - 73cm per crank - 5kg of drag - 185 grams Luvias 2004 - 4.8 retrieve ratio - 63cm per crank - 2kg of drag - 190 grams As you can see the Luvias is more appropriate for my intended use here. For this style the sustain would be too fast and as a bonus the luvias is larger, slower (good in this example) and has more appropriate drag. To switch things up. If I was looking for something to fish plastics on the bottom or against structure, or even some light spinning for salmon, then the sustain would be more appropriate. |
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My two cents, although not much, is drag quality.
A smooth drag, particularly when using thin line diameters, could mean the difference between landing and losing fish. Hence the carbontex washer that are frequently sort. This is also more likely to play its part when wrangling bigger fish. |
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Thanks woronora
I've added drag quality to the list. I'm still finding it strange how few posts on this forum actually say anything at all about the key features. |
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That's because they're mostly just marketing. The things you have already taken on board are essentially covered across the 'features' that each brand claims and you would be here all week trying to disambiguate them all.
They are available on the manufacturers website if you are interested in a particular thing. Basically you figure out which reel requirements you want first then you go and figure out what each manufacturer calls them. Last edited by stripler; 31-08-2014 at 07:52 AM. |
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