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Old 13-04-2019, 06:51 PM
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Putting cheap super glue through its paces

Alex recommended this stuff when I was asking about super glues. So I put it through a couple of tests





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Old 13-04-2019, 06:55 PM
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Also left it submerged in a glass of water for 8 hours and its still holding rock solid.

3 x 20ml bottles for $8.60 ($2.80 a bottle) - there some postage and gst aswell
1 x 20ml bottle for $6.50 ($6.50 a bottle)

Fair bit cheaper than the Bunnings stuff
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Old 13-04-2019, 07:45 PM
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Also - One of the lures I heat welded together came apart - so I tested the super glue on that aswell.

Result - super strong bond that isnt coming apart
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How quickly does the chinese 401 set on SPs, is it instant?
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Old 13-04-2019, 09:29 PM
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Bargain?

One would have to feel sorry for the 17 people who bought this one

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How quickly does the chinese 401 set on SPs, is it instant?

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Nah its not instant - but 20 seconds (new rule) of firm pressure is my general rule for super glue

I'll test it against some real loctite.

Well thats weird - turns out the neither the fake or real stuff cant stick bass minnows together - (they were the extra scent version and slimey on the outside but that shouldnt have effected the clean fresh surfaces inside - maybe the scissors rubbed some slime across the surface as they cut)
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Ok - just did some further testing and it seems real and fake locktite are not instant fixes for joining soft plastics together

And the type of plastic the lure is made from seems to be important in achieving a bond.

The plastic Jarvis walker use is pretty glueable and so are ZMans but leaving the glue to cure for a couple of minutes is definitely advisable - I couldnt get an instant bond on any of the plastics I tried - 20 seconds hold then leaving the plastic alone for a minute or 2 seems to do the trick.

p.s. Bonding with lead (and fingers) happens much quicker, but leaving the glue to cure for a bit, gets a stronger bond
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Gluing cable ties together only takes 10 seconds before you cant pull them apart - but I'm stretching my new superglue holding time with softplastics to 20 seconds with a cure time of as long as possible before testing the bond

(edit - just tested real and fake on the cable tie and both get a solid bond in under 3 seconds)

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Loctite

BFL, I recall that when Cranka had some teething problems with the first gen crab bodies, Steve Steer did some testing on legs & metal bodies and recommended the 435 (clear) & 480 (black) as these are designed for 'silicone rubbers & plastics'..

I have found the 406 to be pretty universal.

fleabay 406 here:
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BFL, I recall that when Cranka had some teething problems with the first gen crab bodies, Steve Steer did some testing on legs & metal bodies and recommended the 435 (clear) & 480 (black) as these are designed for 'silicone rubbers & plastics'..

I have found the 406 to be pretty universal.
Ahhh thats explains a few things - thanks Mark

If you were to cut a softplastic in half and glue the 2 halves back together - do you get an instant bond with the 406?

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Yeah it was interesting he used the phrase - "siliconized rubber" instead of just silicone, rubber or silicone rubber - so maybe some hybrids react better to the glue that others. Rubber appears in the "recommended for" column as does Vinyl or PVC

According to this article - “The majority of soft-plastic fishing lures are made from plastisol, which is a vinyl plastic,” Mike says, “You can make lures as soft or hard as you like by simply manipulating the ratio of resins and plasticizers to change the plastic’s durometer.” Both hand-pour enthusiasts and injection machine operators use a variety of plastisol formulas to create baits with different degrees of hardness and softness. So, a hand-poured drop-shot bait can be as soft as an injected Senko-style stick worm. It simply depends on the type of plastisol that you work with, he explains.

So being made from Vinyl would explain why the glues work on soft plastics
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Lets see what Loctite have to say about the issue
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