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Old 09-11-2018, 10:05 PM
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Old 11-11-2018, 05:57 PM
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Haha. I'm guilty of that.
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Old 11-11-2018, 07:08 PM
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Haha. I'm guilty of that.
Yeah Same

Actually - While I've got a "Rope-Pro" on the line....

What knot do you start with when securing a load - ie - you walk up to the trailer and its the first knot you tie to anchor the rope?

and are you a fan of quick release knots?

and what percentage of the time do you use rope vs ratchet straps?

I better stop now coz the questions keep coming

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Old 11-11-2018, 07:58 PM
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I've always used ropes to keep loads on the back of my 1 tonner.
I start out with a clove hitch to the rail, throw the rope over the load, a trucky's hitch and clove hitch to the opposite rail. Never had one come loose on the run and easy as to undo when you're ready.

Certainly wouldn't use a clove hitch to my anchor though as the constant slackening and tightening from swell and chop may loosen it. I start with a bowline and then a few half hitches for security.
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I've always used ropes to keep loads on the back of my 1 tonner.
I start out with a clove hitch to the rail, throw the rope over the load, a trucky's hitch and clove hitch to the opposite rail. Never had one come loose on the run and easy as to undo when you're ready.

Certainly wouldn't use a clove hitch to my anchor though as the constant slackening and tightening from swell and chop may loosen it. I start with a bowline and then a few half hitches for security.
Yeah, same here. Clove hitch to start with, then truckies hitch to tension. If there's not enough rope to do a truckies hitch; I'll tie a loose clove hitch at the end, pull the rope tight as I can then pull the tag end of the clove hitch to tighten.

As for quick release knots...I love'm. I'll finish a knot/hitch when I can with a loop hitch. I use quick release knots a lot when rigging lowering setups in trees, they can be undone one-handed even after they've had heaps of shock weight put on them.

The only time I use ratchet straps is when tying my motorbike on the trailer.
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Old 11-11-2018, 09:13 PM
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Certainly wouldn't use a clove hitch to my anchor though as the constant slackening and tightening from swell and chop may loosen it. I start with a bowline and then a few half hitches for security.
Have a google for a "Bowline with a bite", will never work loose and can be easily undone. Hitches to lock a Bowline can come loose if it's constantly being handled or bumped. Bowlines are notorious for coming undone; it's illegal for me to use one to secure a rope to my harness unless it has a bite. Too many tree guys have fallen due to a bowline undoing itself.
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I've always used ropes to keep loads on the back of my 1 tonner.
I start out with a clove hitch to the rail, throw the rope over the load, a trucky's hitch and clove hitch to the opposite rail. Never had one come loose on the run and easy as to undo when you're ready.

Certainly wouldn't use a clove hitch to my anchor though as the constant slackening and tightening from swell and chop may loosen it. I start with a bowline and then a few half hitches for security.
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Yeah, same here. Clove hitch to start with, then truckies hitch to tension. If there's not enough rope to do a truckies hitch; I'll tie a loose clove hitch at the end, pull the rope tight as I can then pull the tag end of the clove hitch to tighten.

As for quick release knots...I love'm. I'll finish a knot/hitch when I can with a loop hitch. I use quick release knots a lot when rigging lowering setups in trees, they can be undone one-handed even after they've had heaps of shock weight put on them.

The only time I use ratchet straps is when tying my motorbike on the trailer.
Top Notch advice fellas - thanks for that - I've got the truckies hitch in my arsenal but that clove hitch looks a fair bit more versatile and easier to undo than a triple granny followed by a triple hitch
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As for quick release knots...I love'm. I'll finish a knot/hitch when I can with a loop hitch. I use quick release knots a lot when rigging lowering setups in trees, they can be undone one-handed even after they've had heaps of shock weight put on them.

The only time I use ratchet straps is when tying my motorbike on the trailer.
Yeah I dont do alot of rope work but its something I should improve if I want to keep my "Man Card"

In certain circles - being able to tie a truckers hitch is enough to impress but I've got a lot of room for improvement.

Finishing knots with quick release loop would put a few more hairs on my chest.

Why dont you use ratchet straps more often?
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Old 11-11-2018, 11:12 PM
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Top Notch advice fellas - thanks for that - I've got the truckies hitch in my arsenal but that clove hitch looks a fair bit more versatile and easier to undo than a triple granny followed by a triple hitch
If you want to be really sure the Clove hitch doesn't come undone-just put another hitch in. If you want to make it "quick-release", tuck the tag end back under the last hitch to make a loop.
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Certainly wouldn't use a clove hitch to my anchor though as the constant slackening and tightening from swell and chop may loosen it. I start with a bowline and then a few half hitches for security.
Yeah sorry I may have chosen my words carelessly. When I said "Anchor" I was just referring to first knot your tie on a trailer.

I had to teach myself to self to splice a loop for an anchor retrieval float the other day, so any actually anchors will be safe
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If you want to be really sure the Clove hitch doesn't come undone-just put another hitch in. If you want to make it "quick-release", tuck the tag end back under the last hitch to make a loop.
Sweet - I'm on it - thanks Greggo
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Old 11-11-2018, 11:34 PM
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Here ya go Ol' Chum. Pull the TAG end and it's undone.
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:10 AM
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Here ya go Ol' Chum. Pull the TAG end and it's undone.
Thanks Greggo - I was just having a practice with some of that cheap poly rope you get from bunnings - I'm tipping you dont use that stuff to secure loads.

Its a tad slippery and wants to loosen up if you release tension on the knot
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:18 AM
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Thanks Greggo - I was just having a practice with some of that cheap ploy rope you get from bunnings - I'm tipping you dont use that stuff to secure loads.

Its a tad slippery and wants to loosen up if you release tension on the knot
Haha, no that rope is only good for guy ropes on tents I reckon. You cant tie a strong truckies hitch with it either, it'll cut itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCNwxqP7l44
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Haha, no that rope is only good for guy ropes on tents I reckon. You cant tie a strong truckies hitch with it either, it'll cut itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCNwxqP7l44
HeHe - yeah I'm beginning to agree with you - The slippery-ness of poly rope is the reason I've always finished my knots with 15 hitches

I'll check the vid when I get home but I can forsee some sort of sawing action going on
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