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Old 25-01-2018, 08:50 PM
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Buying from Japan - buyer beware story...

So treated myself to a Conquest 300F - a Jigging / boat specific reel of sorts. Has no casting control on the spool and can be modified or used for casting with a educated thumb.

So looked clean and tidy and thinking I could trust a eBay seller with his 5 star rating I went ahead and bought it.

These are the pics of the reel how it came and then what It looked like inside.

I would highly recommend avoiding the seller "kotonomama" - has no real idea on grading a reel - spun it in the hand and its "near mint", yeh outside is not how you grade a reel overall either.
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Old 25-01-2018, 08:53 PM
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And how the reel actually came.

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The reel on the outside looks pretty good for its relevant age, I mean nobody actually knows its manufacture date but it could be anywhere from 2004 - 2012...

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My purchase would've been swayed straight away if I'd have known that there was corrosion on the spool... Another interesting deviation away from the truth on the sellers behalf.

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The handle on the reel was "VERY" loose - another fact that he avoided telling in the speil. Sell at whatever cost I guess...

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As soon as I cracked it open my heart sank - yep I had been taken for a fool...
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Old 25-01-2018, 08:55 PM
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Some more horror pictures.

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From what you can see here is that the grease has come off the main and pinion and corrosion has set in, also the spool shaft the ferrous corrosion in that area really gave me the sh!ts...

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One of the 3 bearings that were corroded shut - so the "Good working and all functions work correctly!!" was basically the shafts spinning inside the ID of the bearings - felt stiff to wind when I got it out of the box.

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Shot of the gearbox top down.

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Under the main pressure plate and the main drag washer.

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Main and pinion corrosion... "Near Mint"...
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Old 25-01-2018, 08:59 PM
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And some more...

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Under the main handle shaft - the bearing "kaput"... Water got into this thing hard!

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Some more of the bearings that were shot to sh*t.

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The strip down was a real eye opener of a fraudulently sold reel...

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All parts washed out and drying - that before some parts to be intensively cleaned mechanically and chemically.
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Old 25-01-2018, 09:03 PM
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And why not show some turn around pics.

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Some of the corrosion spots inside the reel - treated with acid and cleared over.

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At one stage of the rebuild.

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Main gear clean up.

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Another point of the rebuild - going to have to revisit it at some point to do some more work.

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Picture of the actual reel completed.

What I am going to "TRY" to do is find a bombed out Calcutta 200 - and repurpose some parts from it - mainly the friction rung from its side plate and the cast control weight system and bang that into this reel - which will give me more functionality than it has at the moment.
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Old 25-01-2018, 09:08 PM
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As annoyed as I’m sure you were with the not quite accurate description,

I reckon you actually enjoyed yourself

I would’ve, at least once the service was underway and the 12yr old Yamazaki was cracked
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Old 26-01-2018, 12:45 AM
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At least it was salvageable
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Old 26-01-2018, 12:59 AM
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As annoyed as I’m sure you were with the not quite accurate description, I reckon you actually enjoyed yourself

I would’ve, at least once the service was underway and the 12yr old Yamazaki was cracked
I unfortunately don't enjoy paying top tier price for a reel thats like that on the inside, if it were "mint" yeh sure. Otherwise I would've just bought the D 300F series - but wanted that Conquest more.

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At least it was salvageable
True, after a fair amount of work though. Still going to have to revisit it as mentioned - new drag, new spool plates and bearings. And hope that Shimano Aus can help (doubtful however) with the cast control mechanisms...
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Old 26-01-2018, 01:24 AM
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If you felt so inclined, you could probably get your money back by filing a dispute, but try contacting the seller first and ask for a partial refund to cover your losses.
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Old 26-01-2018, 01:38 AM
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try contacting the seller first and ask for a partial refund to cover your losses.
Definitely give that a try
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Old 26-01-2018, 01:59 AM
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I don’t reckon old koto wouldn’t to sell many reels to blokes that instantly rip them apart to critique every square mm of the reel.

Reels are either new or used, all interpretations in between are just a gamble.

Anyway I can tell you enjoyed the process!
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Old 26-01-2018, 08:34 AM
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Ebay are very good at recovering funds. This seller will be black balled if you bring his behavior to their attention.

Had issues with China seller.....fixed by ebay quick time AND seller withdrew product from offer.

Good luck.
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Old 26-01-2018, 08:39 PM
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I'm sure there's lots of people guilty of shipping buggered reels to people.

Must be very disappointing to spin the handle on a reel that should be mint to find it's grindy and stiff.
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Old 28-01-2018, 07:32 PM
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Slazmo, you could have had a better chance of disputing the sale if you contacted the seller showing him the spool corrosion.

It would have been enough to ask for your money back at that stage claiming the Item was "Not as described". However after a rebuilt it would be very problematic.

I am sure the seller would have been willing to sort it out if he wanted to keep his 100% feedback rating.

Did you leave your feedback for this transaction?

Buying second hand is always a risk.
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Old 28-01-2018, 08:50 PM
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What did you clear cover the corrosion spots with?
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