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Old 17-04-2019, 06:57 AM
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I use superglue to glue placcys onto jigheads, not really fussed which one I use as they've all worked. but for tear repairs I use mend it as I it retains the consistency of the placcy, whereas superglue joins are hard. Down side mend it is hard to find in Aus and it gets claggy to unuseable over time.

Has anyone used the "Soft Bait" glue? is that like a hard superglue join?
Nah Mate I've only started thinking about super glue recently -

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Old 17-04-2019, 09:47 AM
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I'll do a comparison when my 406 lands
The Z-Man I glued with 406, failed at the join today, had gone crusty around the edge
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Old 17-04-2019, 10:07 AM
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The Z-Man I glued with 406, failed at the join today, had gone crusty around the edge
Ahh Dammit - my ebay 401 is still holding days later - the plastic they use on the Jarvis Walker Lure is pretty rigid and there is a decent amount of surface area. (But note - the join I glued together had already been heat welded together with a lighter before coming apart - so it wasnt like freshly cut plastic being glued together)

I also just tested the Zman and it let go when it got to about 2.5 times the original length - I just glued it back together and it seems to be holding again but it seems the join doesnt not age well with these super glues.

The Zman to lead jighead bond with super glue is still solid

I did have a few other failures with other plastics but some bonds stayed rock solid using the exact same plastic from the same lure - while others failed - so there is definitely some driver error at the critical gluing stage

I'm probably going to spend $40 testing all these super glues - when the "Pros Soft bait glue" seems to be the answer to all my problems
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Old 17-04-2019, 07:58 PM
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Nah Mate I've only started thinking about super glue recently -
That video hasn't been my experience with mend it, the mend it joins I have a seem strong enough (I havent pulled them apart again to test but know theyre strong enough) and the best part is that it isn't hard like superglue, I think its like a solvent for the actual placcy, if u put too much on it will melt through the placcy.
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Old 17-04-2019, 09:02 PM
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That video hasn't been my experience with mend it, the mend it joins I have a seem strong enough (I havent pulled them apart again to test but know theyre strong enough) and the best part is that it isn't hard like superglue, I think its like a solvent for the actual placcy, if u put too much on it will melt through the placcy.
Yeah that fella did seem to want to show "mend it" in its worst light - but Its the rapid set of the "pro soft bait glue" that I like.

How long would you have to press the plastics together to achieve a bond with "Mend it"?

If I dont let superglue set for a couple of minutes, it can pull apart like the "Mend it" did in that video - so for an on the water solution - rapid set is a big plus.

Zmans have a faster curing time than other plastics I tried with super glues - 30 seconds can be enough - but you do get a hard crust that can fail over time.
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Old 17-04-2019, 10:20 PM
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Yeah that fella did seem to want to show "mend it" in its worst light - but Its the rapid set of the "pro soft bait glue" that I like.

How long would you have to press the plastics together to achieve a bond with "Mend it"?

If I dont let superglue set for a couple of minutes, it can pull apart like the "Mend it" did in that video - so for an on the water solution - rapid set is a big plus.

Zmans have a faster curing time than other plastics I tried with super glues - 30 seconds can be enough - but you do get a hard crust that can fail over time.
From memory mend it sets pretty quickly as long as you don't put too much. I reckon it was around 20 sec. My mend it was drying up so i tried some nail polish remover that was recommended and that effed it. It's the non crusty bits that i like about Mend it.
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Well the loctite 406 I got was just watered down clag

When I asked for a refund it was instantaneous. Which makes me think I'm not the first person to have had issues with that seller

I think this is where my search will end as the 401 is still holding - its nowhere near as good as the instant malleable bond of The Pros Soft Bait Glue - but with a bit of care and a decent cure time it sort of does what I need it to do.

I'll just have to pre-rig everything and have spares (which is something I already do, so its no biggy)
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Old 18-05-2019, 10:58 PM
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Well the loctite 406 I got was just watered down clag.....


I also bought an eBay cheapie and it has been on my desk for a couple of weeks, decided to test it this morning to see if I also had CLAG
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Same deal as before: Z man 3", not sure I got the full 20g though, the container is only 1/2 full
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Glue & hold 10 seconds, wait another 10.
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Full stretch test, same as the locally bought 406
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Old 18-05-2019, 11:06 PM
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kicker

found this accelerator, locally on fleabay (after looking at the tackle warehouse version again).
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and a full kit from Rolan Aust (not much cheaper that TW)
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Old 18-05-2019, 11:20 PM
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Fail

20 minutes later the join has failed, anyone want some clag
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Glue has sort of crystallised on the surface, no penetration or bond.
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Might try the kicker....
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yep we bought the same clag.

While their glue sucks - the refund process was the easiest I've come across

Let me know how the accelerator goes
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yep we bought the same clag.

While their glue sucks - the refund process was the easiest I've come across

Let me know how the accelerator goes
Found a use for the cheap CA glue, BFL..

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