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Old 19-07-2010, 07:18 AM
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here are the enhancements( that we are concerned with) for the latest update 3.0
Digital Switching Systems Integration
Feature Description
Provides real time monitoring and status
change notification of key electrical system
components on HDS displays. This feature
does not allow the user to control electrical
system components.
Benefits
•Improved user interface for consumer
allowing monitoring of system
components from any HDS equipped
location
•Reduced wiring and connections for
builder reducing failure points
Other Considerations/Equipment
•Requires DSS omni-Bus load controller
•Available only on Triton boats initially
•Highly customizable
Accessibility
•Activate in
Menu/Menu/System/Advanced/Features
•Info/Add Dashboard/DSS

Mercury SmartCraft Integration
Feature Description
Provides real time monitoring of Mercury
Engine Data on HDS displays. Includes
engine RPM, engine voltage, oil & water
pressures, fuel flow, and more
Benefits
•Eliminates the need for the consumer/
boat builder to install dedicated
gauges to view this information
•View more information, faster than
using standard gauges
Other Considerations/Equipment
•Requires separate purchase of
SmartCraft Merc Monitor from Mercury
Accessibility
•Standard NMEA 2000 network setup
and activation
•Some configuration may be required;
auto-configuration option is available.
•More hands-on required for multiple
engine set-ups.
•Info Screen to Display

Navionics Improvements
Feature Benefit
Heading Extension – Adds line extension
to vessel. Line distance is projected
based on distance or time
Allows user to project future position based on
current bearing and speed. Aid to vessel
positioning. To enable use:
Menu/Menu/Chart/Heading Extension
Fish & Chips Support – Display higher
detail bathymetric contours from Fish and
Chips card. Note that Navigation data is
displayed concurrently with this
information
Fish N Chips offers enhanced sea floor contours for
locating ledges and canyons. Aid to fisherman for
finding fish and fish holding areas.
Last Track Line Drawn (see illustration
next page)
Bug fix to correct gap between vessel and trail
Upside Down label correction Bug Fix – Text now rotates properly in all navigation
modes
Micro-SD card support Enables HDS to work with 2010 Navionics Mapping
cards on Micro-SD format
Restricted areas Users will now be able to hide wildlife sanctuary
areas and view items critical for navigation. Default
value remains on. When in Chart– Menu>Chart
Options>Settings> Chart Detail>User… – Uncheck
Restricted Areas

Other Features
Feature Benefit
LGC-4000 Processing – Allows HDS
units to capture GPS information at
5x / second
Faster processing of speed and position data on HDS
units for improved accuracy.
Low Voltage Alarm Settings Warns user that battery power is getting low; aids in
avoiding getting stranded due to inability to start the
engine
Fish Alarm Audible sound when unit detects fish. Accessible from
Sonar Screen under Menu/Sonar Options
Expanded support of Coordinate Restores features set to previous level of functionality
Systems and Datum
available on LMS/LCX products. Accessible via
System/Datum and Coordinate Systems
Phantom LORAN Accessible via Navigation Menu
Improved Night Mode •Improved operation in 2D chart mode when operating at
night. 3D mode not recommended for night operation
Synchronized Backlighting •On networked systems – dimming one display or placing
it in night mode dims all connected displays

XTF Support for Structure Feature Description
Allows StructureScan users to output
log information in alternative file
format.
Benefits
• Many 3rd party applications support
XTF file input to aid users in post
processing of Side scan sonar data.
Other Considerations/Equipment
• Requires StructureScan capability.
Accessibility
•StructureScan/Log Sonar

Night operation in 2D mode
Enhancement
Night mode operation in 2D provides
change in mapping palette.
Benefits
• Ease of use for consumer in reduced
light conditions. Helps avoid night
blindness
Other Considerations/Equipment
• None
Accessibility
•Power/Night Mode


So from what i can see i dont know why you have more frequencies to play with i will get back to you when i find out more
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Old 19-07-2010, 07:23 AM
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So it shows the bottom ok???
you might have to adjust your Sensitivity.
Turn Auto off
adjust Sensitivity all the way up till it fills the screen then back it off untill your screen starts to clear i find about 72% to 78% works ok but you will have to play around. it doesnt hurt to have a little bit of clutter on the screen
Play with that and get back to me ........
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Old 19-07-2010, 07:32 AM
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Thanks Steve,

Have tried what you have mentioned.

It does show the bottom but its a thick black blur showing no grey line, even when i know im sitting over a hard rocky bottom.

Maybe im just expecting too much from it!

I realise im at the bottom of the sounder scale.

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Old 19-07-2010, 07:34 AM
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Dor has answer the question you need both ...thanks Dor
jump in guys if you can help out this is what its all about here helping some brothers out.
Bubba the guys selling the head units only might be trying to make the price look more attractive then when you go thats cheep, well then you need a transducer ....not sure but for the fishing we all do the 83/200 is all we need .
I think the price of the Structure scan has come down alot since its first release.
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Old 19-07-2010, 07:55 AM
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just going over the manual

Weak bottom echo, digital readings erratic, or no fish signals:
1. Make certain the transducer is pointing straight down. Clean the
face of the transducer. Oil, dirt and fuel can cause a film to form on the
transducer, reducing its effectiveness. If the transducer is mounted inside
the hull, be sure it is shooting through only one layer of fiberglass
and that it is securely bonded to the hull. Do NOT use RTV silicone
rubber adhesive or Marine-Tex epoxy.
2. Electrical noise from the boat's motor can interfere with the sonar.
This causes the sonar to automatically increase its Discrimination or
noise rejection feature. This can cause the unit to eliminate weaker
signals such as fish or even structure from the display.
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3. The water may be deeper than the sonar's ability to find the bottom. If
the sonar can't find the bottom signal while it's in the automatic mode, the
digital sonar display will flash continuously. It may change the range to
limits far greater than the water you are in. If this happens, place the unit
in the manual mode, then change the range to a realistic one, (for example,
0-100 feet) and increase the sensitivity. As you move into shallower
water, a bottom signal should appear.
4. Check the battery voltage. If the voltage drops, the unit's transmitter
power also drops, reducing its ability to find the bottom or targets.
Bottom echo disappears at high speeds or erratic digital reading
or weak bottom echo while boat is moving
1. The transducer may be in turbulent water. It must be mounted in a
smooth flow of water in order for the sonar to work at all boat speeds.
Air bubbles in the water disrupt the sonar signals, interfering with its
ability to find the bottom or other targets. The technical term for this is
cavitation.
2. Electrical noise from the boat's motor can interfere with the sonar.
This causes the sonar to automatically increase its Discrimination or
noise rejection feature. This can cause the unit to eliminate weaker signals
such as fish or even structure from the display.
Try using resistor spark plugs or routing the sonar unit's power and
transducer cables away from other electrical wiring on the boat.
No fish arches when the Fish I.D. feature is off:
1. Make certain the transducer is pointing straight down. This is the
most common problem if a partial arch is displayed.
2. The sensitivity may not be high enough. In order for the unit to display
a fish arch, it has to be able to receive the fish's echo from the time
it enters the cone until it leaves. If the sensitivity is not high enough,
the unit shows the fish only when it is in the center of the cone.
3. Use the Zoom feature. It is much easier to display fish arches when
zoomed in on a small range of water than a large one. For example, you
will have much better luck seeing fish arches with a 30 to 60 foot range
than a 0 to 60 foot range. This enlarges the targets, allowing the display
to show much more detail.
4. The boat must be moving at a slow trolling speed to see fish arches.
If the boat is motionless, fish stay in the cone, showing on the screen as
straight horizontal lines.
Also you could play with the greyline to see if you can get rid of that black bottom.
Also get one of your mates to check your transducer placement
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Old 19-07-2010, 08:45 AM
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steve,

i am running a x52 sounder i have found i dont regualarly pick up a heap of marks, are these sounders any good, should i put more sensitivity? the tranducer is mounted exactly as per guidelines, any other settings i should play with?
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Old 19-07-2010, 09:02 AM
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Ahh the X52 the HQ holden of the lowrance family... they dont sell a heap if they are not good. They would be the best mono chrome sounder for there price ever.....
you could try uping the Sensitivity...what are you running it at the moment???
If that doesnt work start looking at your transducer it is the most important thing to set up to get the best out of your sounder.
check the angle etc.
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Great thread Steve, any chance of getting some pics of what you think are bream on your sounder, Im running hds and find that I sound many many fish but Im not sure what is what. When I went to Mondy recently I sounded fish everywhere but I can't destinguish between bass/yellas/bream and barra. Next time I am out I will get some shots to show.

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Old 20-07-2010, 04:06 AM
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hi stephen,i have a hds5x.i had a white block appear on the screen 3 times during the day underneath the bottom layer and it moved across the screen and then disappeared.twice it happened going through a bridge and once where a pipeline or electricals went under the river.any ideas?
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Old 20-07-2010, 04:38 AM
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mcq that will be the auto depth range changing scale. if you turn it off and select the range your fishing it won't do that.

Here's some images I have of bream, the first is idling over them and the second is drifting back over the fish. For some reason my images always look worse when viewing using lowrance SLV.

This is off a HDS5



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Old 20-07-2010, 04:50 AM
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mcq that will be the auto depth range changing scale. if you turn it off and select the range your fishing it won't do that.

Here's some images I have of bream, the first is idling over them and the second is drifting back over the fish. For some reason my images always look worse when viewing using lowrance SLV.

This is off a HDS5



i have been using the auto depth,but the white block i mentioned was like a cut out,pure white,it's hard to explain properley.i have been having a few teething problems with the sounder,but all of it is down to my lack of understanding of it,it's getting better though.
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Old 20-07-2010, 05:01 AM
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The white block didn't cut through the screen image of the bottom though did it??

I would guess it was as you were getting deeper and like powerbream suggested it is just the change of depth scale.
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Old 20-07-2010, 05:07 AM
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no,not through the bottom itself,under it.it's starting to make sense now.i won't be in the boat for another month now due to holidays but i'll give it a go without the auto depth when i get back.cheers.
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Power, do you always have on shallow setting, even towards the mouth of the system where there is more salt?
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Power, do you always have on shallow setting, even towards the mouth of the system where there is more salt?
Na mate its just always on general use.
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