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Old 17-04-2019, 09:03 AM
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Got a brew on - looking for my next move

Needed some maggots for bait - so instead of buying some, I've brewed my own.

I first noticed the maggots yesterday and then checked again tonight - things are progressing quickly

My plan is pour the catfood into some news paper - wrap it up and stick it in a bucket to let them fatten up

But I'm wondering when the best time to transfer them to the paper is - should I let them sit in the can till they have munched it all or transfer now?

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Old 17-04-2019, 08:40 PM
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I used to grow 'gents' to feed my finches when breeding time came around.

As soon as I had some fatties like yours, I would wrap in the local rag, put some dry pollard in the bottom of a bucket and a few stones to raise the paper ball off the bottom.

They chew through the paper pretty quickly and drop into the pollard, where they clean up nicely on the dry food. Discard the catfood ball and the wrigglers can be stored in containers in the fridge (as long as house mates/partners don't see them ).

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Old 17-04-2019, 09:21 PM
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I used to grow 'gents' to feed my finches when breeding time came around.

As soon as I had some fatties like yours, I would wrap in the local rag, put some dry pollard in the bottom of a bucket and a few stones to raise the paper ball off the bottom.

They chew through the paper pretty quickly and drop into the pollard, where they clean up nicely on the dry food. Discard the catfood ball and the wrigglers can be stored in containers in the fridge (as long as house mates/partners don't see them ).

Best herring/gardie bait EVER.
Very Nice - thanks Mark - I like the clever move with the rocks.

I know its almost impossible to guess with all the variables involved - but if you were to have a guess - how long do you reckon before they are ready to transfer to the fridge.

These Oriental Latrine Flys seems to be the most common in my neighbourhood but there are some bigger black blowies aswell

Chrysomya megacephala, more commonly known as the oriental latrine fly, is a member of the family Calliphoridae (blowflies). It is a warm-weather fly with a greenish-blue metallic box-like body. The fly infests corpses soon after death, making it important to forensic science. This fly is implicated in some public health issues; it can cause accidental myiasis,[1] and also infects fish and livestock.
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Old 17-04-2019, 09:31 PM
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and I couldnt find any pollard at coles online - will oat bran do. - Or is flour ok - basically I'm trying to find something they sell at coles so I dont have to go to a livestock feed store

I do have access to a LIVEstock feed store but its a bit of a hike
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Old 18-04-2019, 12:51 AM
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and I couldnt find any pollard at coles online - will oat bran do. - Or is flour ok - basically I'm trying to find something they sell at coles so I dont have to go to a livestock feed store

I do have access to a LIVEstock feed store but its a bit of a hike
I have never used flour Larry, pollard is produced by sieving the bran from flour when milling, so I expect the closest would be bran, (pollard is much more coarse than flour).

I got pollard from tackle stores, used with fish oil to make burley.

Coupla days after you remove the catfood ball from bucket stick gents in the fridge, otherwise they will pupate if it is warm and the blowies are hard to catch and put onto a hook
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Old 18-04-2019, 02:11 AM
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I have never used flour Larry, pollard is produced by sieving the bran from flour when milling, so I expect the closest would be bran, (pollard is much more coarse than flour).

I got pollard from tackle stores, used with fish oil to make burley.

Coupla days after you remove the catfood ball from bucket stick gents in the fridge, otherwise they will pupate if it is warm and the blowies are hard to catch and put onto a hook
Ok cool - thanks for all the details - much appreciated

I dont think my fly catching game is where it needs to be

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Old 18-04-2019, 04:25 AM
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...I dont think my fly catching game is where it needs to be
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Old 18-04-2019, 08:18 AM
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Well that was pretty painless - ended up going to the specialist feed store only to find they no longer stocked bran or pollard

Thankfully both Coles and Woolies have it.

Stink wasnt a major issue until you got your head in the bucket - and now they are chilling in the fridge

Thanks for the "2 day tip" Mark - they've fattened up nicely

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Why?

I left mine in the pollard and they clean themselves out while in it.
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I was watching some English maniac and he reckons he cleans his stash twice a day -

His theory is all about not letting them sit in their own waste. He reckons the bran shouldnt stink.

He reckons fish dont like dirty smelling maggots - I dont know about that - I was cleaning mine so they wouldnt stink out the fridge

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Here they are after 16 days in the fridge

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I was watching some English maniac and he reckons he cleans his stash twice a day -

His theory is all about not letting them sit in their own waste. He reckons the bran shouldnt stink.

He reckons fish dont like dirty smelling maggots - I dont know about that - I was cleaning mine so they wouldnt stink out the fridge
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As a side note to this - I dropped a few maggots into my fish tank to see the goldfishes reactions.

As is often the case - they didnt quite know what to do with a new food source. I had the same issues when introducing them to corn and worms.

One goldfish grabbed a maggot after a while but the rest had crawled into the rocks on the bottom of the tank.

What did surprise me was how they instantly locked into the piss soaked bran that I accidentally added with the maggots. That was instanly recognised as a food source and they charged round the tank gobbling it up
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Old 09-05-2019, 01:32 PM
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The holes, in my improvised mesh sieve for separating maggots from bran, were too small. (2mm max)

So I googled Maggots sieves/riddle and they were a bit expensive. Cheapest I found on ebay was about $36 if you include postage charges. So I googled popular mesh sizes. Seems 3mm is about right.

The purpose built ones are made from wire, which I imagine is more efficient (first photo) - but this plastic garden sieve with 3mm holes, will be better than what I had.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Plastic-...e44104|iid%3A1
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