Csiro getting called out for Dodgy science - Carp Virus

[yellow door 1]

https://www.facebook.com/10001897860...4337312875554/

[Joely]

Sure. And 9/11 was in inside job.

CyHV1 acts upon genes only present in Cyprinus carpio. This virus has been tested all over the world in hundreds of institutions as well as in the wild and the results are always consistent: Cyprinus carpio and some hybrids involving it are the only taxa affected by the virus. Some very closely related species (none native to Australia) can be vectors. This includes goldfish, grass carp, and tench though even these close relatives of the carp are asymptomatic and seemingly unaffected.

The presence of virus doesnt indicate infection. You have millions of virus particles on you right now.

Gill necrosis exists in unhealthy fish. This is a non-specific symptom that you would expect to see in a population of fish given half have died.

The study is still horrible in my opinion and should have failed ethics approval as clearly the CSIRO have suffered from the massive cuts and restructures that have plagued government science-based organisations in recent years.

I will find the paper when I get some time and report back. I'm interested to know whether they had controls (i.e. some fish injected with saline instead of virus) to see how much the injection of matter influenced death rates. I can't imagine an experiment like this without such a control and yet there was no mention in that video.

[yellow door 1]

Originally Posted by Joely

The study is still horrible in my opinion and should have failed ethics approval

I've decided to follow the CSIRO scientific method and just cherry pick the info that suits my agenda. From this I can only conclude you are in 100% agreeance and the other stuff you said was irrelevant coz you were a bit hot and bothered.

[manno]

So what do they stand to gain by implimenting if it meant ignoring their own science?

[yellow door 1]

Originally Posted by manno

So what do they stand to gain by implimenting if it meant ignoring their own science?

Yeah thats what I want to know - I'm tipping its got something to do with "Pepe Silvia"

[manno]

Haha. I like it. Not sure how it applies though. I just dont know why a group that i will assume have a certain level of environmental conscience would support a program that they thought would have a negative impact.