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I use a bait caster for most of my yakking, but not landbased fishing. I find them soooo accurate when casting at snags and structure from the water, but from the land to a snag is a totally different story.
I make my own baitcaster rods and can easily cast a 1/8 jighead, so weight isn't really an issue. It's more a matter of the different approaches to snags and structure. Also the surrounding trees and other hazards play a big part in choosing a weapon...I'll always carry a spin setup with me on the yak, just in case. From the land I find I tend to "lob" the lure at a snag, which is difficult with a baitcaster (for me), so I use a spin setup. Whereas I find the lob technique is way less accurate from the yak (sitting) using a spin setup, so I use the baitcaster, allowing me way more control with the placement. That's the way it is for me, though I'm sure there are plenty who disagree.
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I think one of the old reason for baitcasters was they had better drag systems in a smaller lighter package - is that still the case? |
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If you lap the drag plates and use good washers I reckon you will get a similar result with either. The next step up is using thrust bearings etc but then you need the space, ala lever drag Penns or similar. |
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Thanks for that t303
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I reckon 1000 casts using a baitcaster is a lot easier than 1000 casts on a spin setup. The ergonomics of a baitcaster setup seems to allow for a more natural body movement when casting. The spin setup uses a lot of wrist action when casting, whereas the baitcaster tends to use the whole arm.
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Learn to "flip" cast. You can become insanely accurate within a days practice, far more so than with spin gear. When I first learned how to do it I could land a lure in the filter box up the other end of my pool after an hour or so. It helps a lot if you cast and hold the rod in the same hand as well. Before long you'll be reaching for a short bc setup to use in the thick scrub because you won't need to accommodate for any back swing at all and having your thumb on the spool makes it very easy to halt a cast if you were ever to become overzealous with your flipping.
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So I spose it depends on where you're casting from and how far away your target is - When I typed the initial question I was thinking of trying to cast to the other side of the river with limited back swing. Last edited by yellow door 1; 08-04-2017 at 06:49 PM. |
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Same boat as you Yellow, they're just too cool to avoid playing with! And i'll add a +1 to most people and say they are a PITA tight landbased fishing for me (very limited skills!) but i love it on my kayak.
I cast right handed and hold the rod in my right so its a very engaged way to fish and really efficient. For special cases like me though you will always get the Sh*ts with birds nests and think why do i bother at some stages haha. I went for a pretty 'BFS' style setup, Alphas SV and a majorcraft Volkey BFS and it makes casting down to 1/12 jigheads with a grub pretty simple. Still do most of my light work with spin gear, but it's nice having the option and its great fun pulling stuff out of snags on them. |
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...and there is no bigger pain in the a$$ than a birdsnest with 15lb braid, in a fast flowing river, in a kayak, your $30 Siglett is still in the snag, and you're trying to sort it all out while heading downstream...
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I use fireline crystal and spin gear - so I dont even know what a "wind knot" looks like up close
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yep, palming the spool comes in handy for those bastard trevs making a beeline for pylons.
I saw this technique taken to another level during a $10 kmart rod carp comp - the drag on those plastic reels has 2 settings, locked up or loosen by itself until spool pops off so one of the guys went the locked up option but flicked the anti-reverse and then used the palm to slow the rotor when the fish ran...landed a 6kg+ carp - greatest bit angling I have ever witnessed. |
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